"Wrong is wrong"

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favored — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:57:48 GMT

Yes wrong is wrong. I do believe that he should be held accountable for his wrong doing. I just beleive that we are going about it all wrong. We are so ready to say hang him throw the book at him and losethe key. Come on Get him out of office disbar him but leave the man alone. So many other officials have done so much worse and were proven guilty. And what happened? They lost their jobs. Just let this be affair trial and safe one. Treat this like you would like to be treated. We all have lied in our life and we are all human. Let's not forget that. We praise these people like they are God and they are not. No one in ths world is perfect. And as soon as we all figure that out then maybe we will be able to handle things the right way and some of these things will not be so shocking to us. Let us all pray and ask for forgiveness for our own sins tonight before we lay our heads down. He without sin throw the first stone.

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melissamq — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:00:05 GMT

I think the Mayor lied to each and every resident and non-resident of the city of Detroit. Regardless of what you have done and are doing...."HE LIED"!!!!! He lied to his wife, his co-workers, the residents and tax payers of the city of Detroit. Not only did he LIE, he lied @ the expense of DUTIFUL POLICE OFFICERS. They've worked their whole lives to serve and protect the city, which also means The Mayor's family and children too, to lose their livelyhood to 2 cowards who where lying about an affair. Drag innocent people through a court trial and lie, lie, lie under OATH. As Kim Worthy said OATHS mean something and nobody knows better than KWAME !!! Kwame and Christine should've came clean before it turned into this ugly mess! What's sad is that so many other people are involved it's yet to come. I'm glad The Detroit Free Press found them out, ahhh....the FREEDOM OF PRESS!!!! Got to love America. Kwame never mentioned that Constitutional Right. And as a single parent and 1st time home-buyer in the city of Detroit I'm embarassed. If he lied to his wife and to the city he'll continue. Once a liar always a liar, who know's what he's says is true. He has a Law Degree and that never prevented him from "LYING UNDER OATH". It's self explanitory. They should both be embarrassed for destroying their lives, their families lives, and lives of innocent people. They brought it all on themselves. At least Bill Clinton had the GUTS to say what he did, was a man and stepped down. Got to have RESPECT for HONESTY!!!!! When my hard earned tax $'s are being used to pay off a law suit because 2 cowards were too embarrassed to admit they made a mistake, I take it personal. Those $'s could have spent on other things that are more important than hush $ for an affair. He BETRAYED and LIED to the PEOPLE of the City of Detroit!!!!!!!!!!!

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melissamq — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:09:54 GMT

If your going to lie @ least be able to admit what you did and take responsibility. Not $8 million later, just to be found out anyway. Now they've made their beds they shoukd lay in them. I hope it's worth jail time. They were too embarrassed to even claim each other. That's the kind of man I'm going to believe and trust!!! Throw is *** out. He shows a total lack of disrespect for the court system obviously....... he "LIED UNDER OATH". He convicted himself by hiding and acting in a cowardly manner. They put their families through this not the media. What goes up, always comes down. Secrets..... not good for a leader.

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ronuser5789 — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:00:43 GMT

It amaze me how the religious leaders have come out and ask for the prayers and support for kilpatrick and beatty,but no one has mention the lives and families that they have destroyed by their actions and lies. I think it's time for the governer to step in and remove this mayor. She should show that she can make an important decision before she leave office. How much more do the citizen of detroit have to take for the sake of this selfish mayor. Governer I beg you to do the right thing and remove him now.

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ladypearl — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:06:33 GMT

I think it is very wrong what the mayor is putting this city through . Kwame is always saying how he loves this city. Well admit your wrong and resign so we can get back and repar some of the embarrsment that he has put this city through. I think it is wrong that he is charged with all these Felonies and did not have to put up 10 percent he just walked. A citizen like you or I woyld have had to drop or get locked.

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Lordisno1 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:28:50 GMT

Watching Today Show this morning I saw the counsel of detroit re-run with Conners and Cockrell, I was so so embarrsed. Please mister mayor step down. We are the laughing stock of the nation. Seeing that no one would want to move here, and more people are leaving. In fact, I'm moving out of Detroit in May. Ms. Conners needs to be fired for the performance she showed yesterday, and go to anger management classes. I really felt bad for her husband. He married a getto street girl. I'm so embarrsed living here in Detroit. Not only does the mayor need to stepdown, Mrs. Conner needs to step down also, or fired from the counsel. As the mayor always says "let's move on without the mayor and Conners. Thank You

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EVERYONE READ THESE BLOGS FROM THE BOTTOM UP CONTACT THE WAYNE MI CHAPTER OF THE ACLU-DIRECTOR MS MOSS FOR THE VICTIM SHE'S ON THE RUN-PLEASE DONT LET HER BE ANOTHER MS GREEN
Dear Michigan Public Dear detroit Free Press...
In my pervios blog I detailed what has happened to me personnaly by the Dearborn Police/Staff at HFCC and U of M Dearborn/I detailed how intimidation and harrassment by the perpetrator's assisting the Dearborn police, of myself increased in frequency and in method.
I reported what happened to me to Th FBI for two reason's 1 because I was tortured and the secound because a active Dearborn Postal Emplyee crimminally solicted the perpetrator's in this crimminal act/I also wrote the IUnited States Postal Service letting them know who I am and what happened -my life has been not only destroyed from the torture and running from their containment but My whole life now is about survival and trying to complete the timeline of what happened thru Yahoo email so I can present this timeline with the physical papertrail I have a what left of Audio recording of staged incident's the perpetrator's are staging to give the police a reason to step in for reason of containing me and destroying the current audio's I have.
I have been writing down on paper their previos patterns of behavior and then I have them notarized so the date is isolated in time-then what I wrote they do a week later literally at the plase I wrote on the notarization and I tape it as it's happining.The Ann Arbor Police/the FBI and the Dearborn Police in hope's of containing me and this crimminal act are trying real hard as I go about my daily routine's to get ahold of me thru staged theater's of event's so they can alter the audio's and denie the incident's ever took place as a result.They attempted another staged event in the past hour at a Public Library I frequent..I can not mention which one because I brought the event to a library security gaurd " mattention to get him on tape which I did" he positioned himself right behind me right in veiw of teh perpetrator's waiting for the incident to unfold-It's a city Library" i..e the security Guard being a city employee"it was a arranged event to get me suked into a altercation by a black woman who started messing with me within 2 minutes of me walking in the library whicj I also have on tape this woman then followed me upstair's thru computer survallance they see when Im logging out that's when the security gaurd was text messaged to appear that's when she positioned herself and waited until I got my print job and literaly stood and waited for me to approach the steps to leave then she started walking-I walked fast by the time I got to the first floor withing 5 secound's her and the security gaurd came down the stair's together and they both looked pissed-then the girl puprosely walked all the way around me which was the opposite route to wheir she was goin the bathroom they thought they'd try the event downstair's.
I complained to the security gaurd and left.1/2 hour later another one came up to me and tryed to get my attention at the Post Office,weir I inquired about some missing evedence I mailed to myself on the 7'th of this month along with another letter/1 letter got their the physical evedience has'nt.
The looking for reason's to alter the tape's I have before I find a attorney to give them to/thru them monitoring my internet activity's which I can prove thru a reporter I emailed and they pretended to reply in his stead pretending to be him so I'd feel discourged,and quit my effort's of bring this to the public's attention/if they get ahold of these tape's they will alter them in since Feburary they since January they have altered 2 tape's then stole them were I hide them at The University of Michigan.They are all over me big time/and will not stop until Im Probably dead, as a mean's of stopping this from becoming public. So I will say this here to you today Michigan Tax Payer's I emailed the Govenor/I emailed and sent 3 certified letter's to Ms Worthy/I went to the FBI/for the help I deserved in this situation/in turn I wont say it here but as a result of what Im still experiencing EVERYSINGLE DAY,I suspect they are aiding and abedding in their only agenda here to keep what happened from surfacing not only to protect Dearborn and the State's image but because a Postal Employee was involved.
They are doing everything to discredit me including petioning and given me deliberate total bull___ diagnosis whic another doctor called total Bull___ and know that their method's are'nt working and the fact that Im writing these blogs sending email's to the ACLU-Ms Moss-and looking for a attorney they are all over me.
I dont want to be another Ms Green But a person has to be able to live and breath and be free and all their doing is destroying what's left of my life by trying to contain this situation.
God Bless
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What do cprrupt police and corrupt public official's use when they cannot openly vilate someone's civil right's-well it depend's on the situation-in my case they tell people lie's wheir I go on my daily routine's to get them tostage incident's so I cannot go back their for my need's and if the need's are important enough "Like Food" "Laundry"then Ill have to go somewheir else-now if you add that with knowing that these corrupt individual's knowing that I dont have a car-then they will deduce what my option's are go somewheir else for these need's but options are limited due to having to take the bus-now veryone know's that a great percentage of people that frequent laundry mat's are either poor or close to it-so we realize as a result if the victim is spinned into going into a district wheir the crime rate is higher because of poverty-than they can stage a incident their so it will not look so obvious-well she was in detroit what do you expect- or she was in ypsilanti what do you expect:then then the appearance of this staged incident will look more like a race thing or because it happened in a high crime area wheir their's poverty-then if these corrupt individual's stage their own witnesses than here we have it-someone call's the cop's "One of the perpetrator's involved in this staged incident" and then now it will appear that these corrupt cop's have a reason to approach the victim,the corrupt police officer will hear a tailored story so it will appear on a report that they had just cause the victim is arrested thru this whole staged incident and then spinned into further civil right's violation's that will disclose what they want the court's to see in the end that the victim is the problem and that we were only doing our job-Corrupt police officer's including the FBI in this case belive it or not are feverently trying to discredit the victim before this come's to the public's attention and this mean's illegally petioning her into a phychiarict ward thru staged event's like they already have in Dearborn whier she is literally given a deliberate false diagnosis to discredit her and protect them-Just to let you know doctor's and hospittal's who do this are payed by the government somehow probably thru federal tax break's-if the torture of a Learning Disable white woman ever hit the public's attention especially because it happened in Dearborn the Home of Henry Ford and the Fact it happened under the Guido Administration who was named Mayor of the Year in Las Vegas-and whier the Dearborn MULTI-MILLION Dollar fine art's and Recreation was just named after him-if the Govenor was told of this and Ms Worthy and the harrassment and intimidation escalted what doe's this tell you-their trying to contain it by containg the victim thru their method's including orchestrated staged event's.
THe vistim has proof and the only thing hese people care about literally is concealing this for their own sake and the image of Dearborn and Michigan
I am a person a human being just likie you I never did 1 thing to deserve what happened to me and these people responsible are not people they are literally wild animal's who just dont care about what they do period.
If you read this please contact Ms Moss ACLU Diretcor in Detroit I have sent her numerous email's and I have VERY good reason to belive they have been intercepted by these government officials.THank You
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I am a Lerning Disabled Woman-
I was tortured in Dearborn Michigan By the Dearborn Police/and a Dearborn Postal Employee assisted directly in crimminal soliciting the event.
I reported this matter to the FBI on July 9th and 11th of 2006-I also reported it to Ms Granholm thru the citizens Assistance feature on the Michigan.gov Website/ 6 time's-the intimidation and harrassment tripled after I emailed the Govenor,I also emailed Ms Worthy and Sent her 3 certified letter's telling her what happened-As a mean's to deflect me from the rythm Im trying to keep in writing the timeline of torture which will include the places I was tortured the perpetrator's and their method's of harrassment and intimidation to make me feel powerless and hopeless in reference to reciving justice in this matter/I have been assualted intimidated/survalled,illegeally petitioned into the hospital were I was given a deliberate false diagnosis to discredit me and to protect all of the aboved mention from future litigation- and it is still going on today the harrassment and intimidation-Ms Green was killed when she reached out they tried to stage a incident thru a attempted assualt once again at the Meijer's parking lot in Ypsilanti -right on the outskirts of ANN ARbor wheir I am currently staying while on the run from them-The Ann Arbor police are constantly driving by me to make me feel powerless and intimidated/election's are about to begin this summer and Ms Worthy office "I highly suspect it's her office who is stageing this incident's of assualt/the peopel at meijer's the other day were african American-and they were going to use their freind's as witness's so the police whould've had a reason to arrest me and probably petition me/they did this in Dearborn at a farmer Jack and keep the provacation going for the next day and a 1/2 until I walked into a taylor police station to inquire about what kind've help I could get-he lead me into a discussion of what's going on purposely so he could petition me for the dearborn police-I have Proof real Proof I was tortured-and no one -no one is listening/I will not present the proof I have until a reporter or a attorney from the ACLU get's involved because I dont want the piolice to steal this proof-they have already stolen other audio tape's and part's of written timeline's/they have stolen mail-and things out of envelope's that I mailed to geoffery Fiegar last year-I will bring out what happened to me to the public's attention this spring and fall-Please Contact Ms Moss the Director of the ACLU-I belive alot of teh email's I have been sending her have been intercepted by the Michigan Government-You can Just mention A Woman Was Tortured In Dearborn Michigan and that I put this on this blog today
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Horsewhisper — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:15:57 GMT

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Dear Michigan Public Dear detroit Free Press...
In my pervios blog I detailed what has happened to me personnaly by the Dearborn Police/Staff at HFCC and U of M Dearborn/I detailed how intimidation and harrassment by the perpetrator's assisting the Dearborn police, of myself increased in frequency and in method.
I reported what happened to me to Th FBI for two reason's 1 because I was tortured and the secound because a active Dearborn Postal Emplyee crimminally solicted the perpetrator's in this crimminal act/I also wrote the IUnited States Postal Service letting them know who I am and what happened -my life has been not only destroyed from the torture and running from their containment but My whole life now is about survival and trying to complete the timeline of what happened thru Yahoo email so I can present this timeline with the physical papertrail I have a what left of Audio recording of staged incident's the perpetrator's are staging to give the police a reason to step in for reason of containing me and destroying the current audio's I have.
I have been writing down on paper their previos patterns of behavior and then I have them notarized so the date is isolated in time-then what I wrote they do a week later literally at the plase I wrote on the notarization and I tape it as it's happining.The Ann Arbor Police/the FBI and the Dearborn Police in hope's of containing me and this crimminal act are trying real hard as I go about my daily routine's to get ahold of me thru staged theater's of event's so they can alter the audio's and denie the incident's ever took place as a result.They attempted another staged event in the past hour at a Public Library I frequent..I can not mention which one because I brought the event to a library security gaurd " mattention to get him on tape which I did" he positioned himself right behind me right in veiw of teh perpetrator's waiting for the incident to unfold-It's a city Library" i..e the security Guard being a city employee"it was a arranged event to get me suked into a altercation by a black woman who started messing with me within 2 minutes of me walking in the library whicj I also have on tape this woman then followed me upstair's thru computer survallance they see when Im logging out that's when the security gaurd was text messaged to appear that's when she positioned herself and waited until I got my print job and literaly stood and waited for me to approach the steps to leave then she started walking-I walked fast by the time I got to the first floor withing 5 secound's her and the security gaurd came down the stair's together and they both looked pissed-then the girl puprosely walked all the way around me which was the opposite route to wheir she was goin the bathroom they thought they'd try the event downstair's.
I complained to the security gaurd and left.1/2 hour later another one came up to me and tryed to get my attention at the Post Office,weir I inquired about some missing evedence I mailed to myself on the 7'th of this month along with another letter/1 letter got their the physical evedience has'nt.
The looking for reason's to alter the tape's I have before I find a attorney to give them to/thru them monitoring my internet activity's which I can prove thru a reporter I emailed and they pretended to reply in his stead pretending to be him so I'd feel discourged,and quit my effort's of bring this to the public's attention/if they get ahold of these tape's they will alter them in since Feburary they since January they have altered 2 tape's then stole them were I hide them at The University of Michigan.They are all over me big time/and will not stop until Im Probably dead, as a mean's of stopping this from becoming public. So I will say this here to you today Michigan Tax Payer's I emailed the Govenor/I emailed and sent 3 certified letter's to Ms Worthy/I went to the FBI/for the help I deserved in this situation/in turn I wont say it here but as a result of what Im still experiencing EVERYSINGLE DAY,I suspect they are aiding and abedding in their only agenda here to keep what happened from surfacing not only to protect Dearborn and the State's image but because a Postal Employee was involved.
They are doing everything to discredit me including petioning and given me deliberate total bull___ diagnosis whic another doctor called total Bull___ and know that their method's are'nt working and the fact that Im writing these blogs sending email's to the ACLU-Ms Moss-and looking for a attorney they are all over me.
I dont want to be another Ms Green But a person has to be able to live and breath and be free and all their doing is destroying what's left of my life by trying to contain this situation.
God Bless
4/29/2008 4:30 PM EDT on freep.com
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What do cprrupt police and corrupt public official's use when they cannot openly vilate someone's civil right's-well it depend's on the situation-in my case they tell people lie's wheir I go on my daily routine's to get them tostage incident's so I cannot go back their for my need's and if the need's are important enough "Like Food" "Laundry"then Ill have to go somewheir else-now if you add that with knowing that these corrupt individual's knowing that I dont have a car-then they will deduce what my option's are go somewheir else for these need's but options are limited due to having to take the bus-now veryone know's that a great percentage of people that frequent laundry mat's are either poor or close to it-so we realize as a result if the victim is spinned into going into a district wheir the crime rate is higher because of poverty-than they can stage a incident their so it will not look so obvious-well she was in detroit what do you expect- or she was in ypsilanti what do you expect:then then the appearance of this staged incident will look more like a race thing or because it happened in a high crime area wheir their's poverty-then if these corrupt individual's stage their own witnesses than here we have it-someone call's the cop's "One of the perpetrator's involved in this staged incident" and then now it will appear that these corrupt cop's have a reason to approach the victim,the corrupt police officer will hear a tailored story so it will appear on a report that they had just cause the victim is arrested thru this whole staged incident and then spinned into further civil right's violation's that will disclose what they want the court's to see in the end that the victim is the problem and that we were only doing our job-Corrupt police officer's including the FBI in this case belive it or not are feverently trying to discredit the victim before this come's to the public's attention and this mean's illegally petioning her into a phychiarict ward thru staged event's like they already have in Dearborn whier she is literally given a deliberate false diagnosis to discredit her and protect them-Just to let you know doctor's and hospittal's who do this are payed by the government somehow probably thru federal tax break's-if the torture of a Learning Disable white woman ever hit the public's attention especially because it happened in Dearborn the Home of Henry Ford and the Fact it happened under the Guido Administration who was named Mayor of the Year in Las Vegas-and whier the Dearborn MULTI-MILLION Dollar fine art's and Recreation was just named after him-if the Govenor was told of this and Ms Worthy and the harrassment and intimidation escalted what doe's this tell you-their trying to contain it by containg the victim thru their method's including orchestrated staged event's.
THe vistim has proof and the only thing hese people care about literally is concealing this for their own sake and the image of Dearborn and Michigan
I am a person a human being just likie you I never did 1 thing to deserve what happened to me and these people responsible are not people they are literally wild animal's who just dont care about what they do period.
If you read this please contact Ms Moss ACLU Diretcor in Detroit I have sent her numerous email's and I have VERY good reason to belive they have been intercepted by these government officials.THank You
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wrote: MichTaxPayer wrote:

I am a Lerning Disabled Woman-
I was tortured in Dearborn Michigan By the Dearborn Police/and a Dearborn Postal Employee assisted directly in crimminal soliciting the event.
I reported this matter to the FBI on July 9th and 11th of 2006-I also reported it to Ms Granholm thru the citizens Assistance feature on the Michigan.gov Website/ 6 time's-the intimidation and harrassment tripled after I emailed the Govenor,I also emailed Ms Worthy and Sent her 3 certified letter's telling her what happened-As a mean's to deflect me from the rythm Im trying to keep in writing the timeline of torture which will include the places I was tortured the perpetrator's and their method's of harrassment and intimidation to make me feel powerless and hopeless in reference to reciving justice in this matter/I have been assualted intimidated/survalled,illegeally petitioned into the hospital were I was given a deliberate false diagnosis to discredit me and to protect all of the aboved mention from future litigation- and it is still going on today the harrassment and intimidation-Ms Green was killed when she reached out they tried to stage a incident thru a attempted assualt once again at the Meijer's parking lot in Ypsilanti -right on the outskirts of ANN ARbor wheir I am currently staying while on the run from them-The Ann Arbor police are constantly driving by me to make me feel powerless and intimidated/election's are about to begin this summer and Ms Worthy office "I highly suspect it's her office who is stageing this incident's of assualt/the peopel at meijer's the other day were african American-and they were going to use their freind's as witness's so the police whould've had a reason to arrest me and probably petition me/they did this in Dearborn at a farmer Jack and keep the provacation going for the next day and a 1/2 until I walked into a taylor police station to inquire about what kind've help I could get-he lead me into a discussion of what's going on purposely so he could petition me for the dearborn police-I have Proof real Proof I was tortured-and no one -no one is listening/I will not present the proof I have until a reporter or a attorney from the ACLU get's involved because I dont want the piolice to steal this proof-they have already stolen other audio tape's and part's of written timeline's/they have stolen mail-and things out of envelope's that I mailed to geoffery Fiegar last year-I will bring out what happened to me to the public's attention this spring and fall-Please Contact Ms Moss the Director of the ACLU-I belive alot of teh email's I have been sending her have been intercepted by the Michigan Government-You can Just mention A Woman Was Tortured In Dearborn Michigan and that I put this on this blog today
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