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The rabbit hole got deeper and deeper yesterday as the prosecutor asked Kwame pointed questions about his finances and personal relationships. The prosecutor asked Kwame if he knew Matty Maroun. Kwame replied no. Does his wife know Matty Maroun. No said the Kwamster. Does Jalil, Jihad or Jalopey know Matty Maroun. Kwame says no. Then the prosecutor asks Kwame why Matty Maroun would just OUT OF THE BLUE drop a GIFT of $50,000 into the lap of Carlita and the kids. Kwame had no real response other than to say that he had no idea why people do the things they do. Kilpatrickland is just a wacky world where anything is possible. I want to visit someday. I do not know Matty Maroun but from now on I will be checking my mailbox for my $50,000 gift check. It's like Santa Claus bought a bridge in Detroit! Weeeeeeeeeee! Give me a couple E-ticket rides in Kwameland.

oh..by the way.this is the letter Matty Maroun sent Carlita along with the $50,000 check. Notice that Matty says in one sentence "I knew Kwame long before he entered politics". Wow!

http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/detnews/2009/pdf/1029mmaroun.pdf

Wow!!! There's got to be additional perjury charges filed, due to KK lying in court.

Remember what Pete Karmonos said: "If KK gets into add'l trouble, KK would be terminated from his employment.

It seems to me KK had plenty of money to easily repay the million dollars back. Just think about it: If KK had just paid a little over 16K a month towrds his restitution, I don't think the prosecutor would be doing what she's doing now.

Obviously, KK is very bitter towards the City of Detroit and the people who brought him down. Yet this guy mat attempt to run for office again? So he can REALLY bring Detroit down even more? We can't let this happen.

In my opinion, this entire fiasco revolves around bribery and blackmail. In addition, money laundering may be a factor.

I find it impossible that a miilion dollars had been funnelled though their banking accounts. i'm pretty sure the majority of the funds are sitting in an oveseas financial institution.

Carlita has and never will work.

If Peter Karmos was so sympathetic and compassionate about a man's inability to care for his family, then why didn't he do this for the people he laid off last year?

Carlita was employed by DPS as an elementary teacher.  She was responsible for implementing a program from grant money and didn't do much with it.  Her work ethics were poor and she was not a team player.  I do not know the length of her employment.  REcal may be a little foggy but I believe the location of the elementary school was Warren & Evergreen.  This school is one that met all the qualifying goals last year WITHOUT her. :0)

Kwame had that "charity" fund supposedly for education for Detroit Kids. I can't recall the name of it but his sister Ayanna worked for this foundation and if I am not mistaken his wife Carlita was getting about &60k a year from this same charity. I can't recall the name of the charity but it took in like 700k and they spent something like 400k on salaries.

I heard the prosecutor ask Kwame at the court apperarance if he knew Matty Maroun to which I thought I heard Kwame reply NO. SO if I heard right then how could Matty get so much face time as evidenced by Kwame's own mayor calender.

A gift or income

Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel "Matty" Moroun's $50,000 gift to Carlita Kilpatrick wasn't the first largesse he bestowed on the Kilpatrick family, records show.
Moroun, who is feuding with state and Canadian officials in his efforts to win approval to build a second span, has long been one of the most reliable donors to Carlita Kilpatrick's mother-in-law, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Detroit.
Campaign finance reports show Moroun and his family have donated more than $53,000 to her campaign in the last 10 years, while his employees have kicked in at least another $10,000. Cheeks Kilpatrick has questioned a competing plan from state and Canadian authorities to build a publicly owned bridge to Canada.
Moroun also gave heavily to Kwame Kilpatrick when he was mayor. A calendar obtained by The Detroit News showed that no other business leader got more face time with Kilpatrick than Moroun.
Moroun's spokesman, Phil Frame, said Thursday, "It's personal. There is no politics involved."

Posted: Oct. 30, 2009

Best excerpts from Kilpatrick testimony

Here are some highlights from former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's testimony Thursday regarding whether he has fully disclosed his finances as he works to pay $1-million restitution to the City of Detroit, stemming from his plea deal in the text message scandal.

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2009

Best excerpts from Kilpatrick testimony

Here are some highlights from former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's testimony Thursday regarding whether he has fully disclosed his finances as he works to pay $1-million restitution to the City of Detroit, stemming from his plea deal in the text message scandal.

 

Family banking

Kilpatrick testified that he shares a credit card with his wife, Carlita Kilpatrick, but said she dropped him from one bank account.

Kwame Kilpatrick: "After this harassment, she dropped me from the account."

Wayne County Circuit Judge David Groner: "What harassment?"

Kilpatrick: "This process."

Groner: "Your wife dropped you?"

Kilpatrick: "Yes, sir."

Who pays the rent?

Kilpatrick said he does not know details on lease payments for his million-dollar home in Southlake, Texas.

Kilpatrick: "I guess it's a lease home, but I'm not a party to that lease."

Groner: "Someone else is paying the rent?"

Kilpatrick: "I assume that my wife is paying the rent."

Groner: "And why do you assume that?"

Kilpatrick: "Because I'm not."

Groner: "You never discussed that with her?"

Kilpatrick: "No."

Does his wife work?

Kilpatrick testified he does not know whether Carlita Kilpatrick has a job.

Groner: "Is your wife currently working?"

Kwame Kilpatrick: "Not for a company."

Groner: "Does she have a source of income?"

Kilpatrick: "No."

Groner: "No? Or you don't know?"

Kilpatrick: "I don't know."

A prosecutor is skeptical

Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Athina Siringas seemed incredulous that Kilpatrick knew so little about his wife's activities, including whether she worked in 2008.

Kilpatrick: "I don't know," later adding, "I know my wife was in school."

Siringas: "I didn't ask you that."

Kilpatrick: "You sure didn't."

Kilpatrick said he just went through a period when his wife didn't know everything he was doing. Now, he said, "We're in a period where there are some things, as we work out these issues, that I don't know."

He added he was sure that, through the grace of God, he would know it all soon.

A gift from Moroun

In addition to what was described as a $240,000 loan he received from four metro-Detroit businessmen, Kilpatrick confirmed that Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel (Matty) Moroun gave his family $50,000 while he was in jail. Siringas asked whether Kilpatrick received any other gifts.

Kilpatrick: "Because of the incredible work of your office, Madame Prosecutor, there are a lot of people who have continued to give help to my wife and my children. ... I don't know why people do what they do."

First off it is ricockulous that he equates the judicial process, that he initiated through his illegal actions, as harrassment. Secondly, I think he was really losing his friggin marbles near the end when he made that bizarre quote about the incredible work of your office a lot of people continued to help him and his wife and brats. WTF does that supposed to mean??!?!?! Lastly, why does it take the grace of God to find out about your own wife's assets? lmao! Carlita got him so spun around, bit&h slapped and confused, he don't even know which way is up?? and now he needs God's help against his wife? WTF again?!?!? The judge and prosecutor seemed to let too much crap slip by. What the heck was Kwame really getting ready to say when he said his wife does not work for a company?? Who or what is she working for?? Still drawing a check from some charity?

Remember the movie "The Caine Mutiny" with Humphrey Bogart. Fantastic movie if you never saw it. Kwame reminds me of Captain Queeg.

Kilpatrick Civic Fund

If you click on the name it will take you to documents

 

http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/rs_corp.asp?s_button=sname&v_search=kilpatrick&hiddenField=&search=Search

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Posted: Oct. 30, 2009

Best excerpts from Kilpatrick testimony

Here are some highlights from former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's testimony Thursday regarding whether he has fully disclosed his finances as he works to pay $1-million restitution to the City of Detroit, stemming from his plea deal in the text message scandal.

 

Family banking

Kilpatrick testified that he shares a credit card with his wife, Carlita Kilpatrick, but said she dropped him from one bank account.

Kwame Kilpatrick: "After this harassment, she dropped me from the account."

Wayne County Circuit Judge David Groner: "What harassment?"

Kilpatrick: "This process."

Groner: "Your wife dropped you?"

Kilpatrick: "Yes, sir."

Who pays the rent?

Kilpatrick said he does not know details on lease payments for his million-dollar home in Southlake, Texas.

Kilpatrick: "I guess it's a lease home, but I'm not a party to that lease."

Groner: "Someone else is paying the rent?"

Kilpatrick: "I assume that my wife is paying the rent."

Groner: "And why do you assume that?"

Kilpatrick: "Because I'm not."

Groner: "You never discussed that with her?"

Kilpatrick: "No."

Does his wife work?

Kilpatrick testified he does not know whether Carlita Kilpatrick has a job.

Groner: "Is your wife currently working?"

Kwame Kilpatrick: "Not for a company."

Groner: "Does she have a source of income?"

Kilpatrick: "No."

Groner: "No? Or you don't know?"

Kilpatrick: "I don't know."

A prosecutor is skeptical

Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Athina Siringas seemed incredulous that Kilpatrick knew so little about his wife's activities, including whether she worked in 2008.

Kilpatrick: "I don't know," later adding, "I know my wife was in school."

Siringas: "I didn't ask you that."

Kilpatrick: "You sure didn't."

Kilpatrick said he just went through a period when his wife didn't know everything he was doing. Now, he said, "We're in a period where there are some things, as we work out these issues, that I don't know."

He added he was sure that, through the grace of God, he would know it all soon.

A gift from Moroun

In addition to what was described as a $240,000 loan he received from four metro-Detroit businessmen, Kilpatrick confirmed that Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel (Matty) Moroun gave his family $50,000 while he was in jail. Siringas asked whether Kilpatrick received any other gifts.

Kilpatrick: "Because of the incredible work of your office, Madame Prosecutor, there are a lot of people who have continued to give help to my wife and my children. ... I don't know why people do what they do."

First off it is ricockulous that he equates the judicial process, that he initiated through his illegal actions, as harrassment. Secondly, I think he was really losing his friggin marbles near the end when he made that bizarre quote about the incredible work of your office a lot of people continued to help him and his wife and brats. WTF does that supposed to mean??!?!?! Lastly, why does it take the grace of God to find out about your own wife's assets? lmao! Carlita got him so spun around, bit&h slapped and confused, he don't even know which way is up?? and now he needs God's help against his wife? WTF again?!?!? The judge and prosecutor seemed to let too much crap slip by. What the heck was Kwame really getting ready to say when he said his wife does not work for a company?? Who or what is she working for?? Still drawing a check from some charity?

Remember the movie "The Caine Mutiny" with Humphrey Bogart. Fantastic movie if you never saw it. Kwame reminds me of Captain Queeg.

I loved the harrassment line.  I was particularly dumbfounded that people have CONTINUED to help out him and his family.  That is quite an unusual gesture for outsiders to do.  Family may be inclined to help out when someone is DOWN on there luck or having some financial difficulty, but business aquaintances and such with a supposed LOAN.  And what does he mean a lot, obviously there are many more than just the names we heard Thurs.  Honestly I think he is using their names to help cover up the large sums of money he has coming and going.

 

Now I have to watch "The Caine Mutiny", let's just call him Queeg (don't want him walking around with a title in his name, it may go to his head. 

Forgetter Be Forgotten
My forgetter's getting better,
But my rememberer is broke
To you that may seem funny
But, to me, that is no joke 

For when I'm 'here' I'm wondering
If I really should be 'there'
And, when I try to think it through,
I haven't got a prayer!

Oft times I walk into a room,
Say 'what am I here for?'
I wrack my brain, but all in vain!
A zero, is my score.

At times I put something away
Where it is safe, but, Gee!
The person it is safest from
Is, generally, me!

When shopping I may see someone,
Say 'Hi' and have a chat,
Then, when the person walks away
I ask myself, 'who the **** was that?

Yes, my forgetter's getting better
While my rememberer is broke,
And it's driving me plumb crazy
And that isn't any joke.

CAN YOU RELATE??? 
Please send this to everyone you know
because

I DON'T REMEMBER
WHO I SENTTHIS TO! 


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JA........harrassment is a ploy to turn his self into a victim and turn peoples heads away from the victims he has stockpiled.  I can't look at him without getting nauseas. These big business men are stupid.......give him money?  Distroying the city of Detroit will eventually make all their businesses fail, what are they going to think of him then?  They may know this........the reason they could be helping his family is probably called Manoogian Party.

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JA........harrassment is a ploy to turn his self into a victim and turn peoples heads away from the victims he has stockpiled.  I can't look at him without getting nauseas. These big business men are stupid.......give him money?  Distroying the city of Detroit will eventually make all their businesses fail, what are they going to think of him then?  They may know this........the reason they could be helping his family is probably called Manoogian Party.

Makes me mad the Manoogian party is the key to all of this.  Also makes me MAD these players ALL know this and that was Kwame's downfall.  OMG can you imagine how many years we would have had to put up with this had Gary Brown not filed a lawsuit?

There's the $64,000 question......Where are the FEDS?   Personally, I think Obama has called off all investigations of the Kilpatricks because of the backing he got from mama cheeks during his campaign.

Strange that a money order would be sent.  In order to do that you have to hand over the money in cash, after first making a trip to your bank to withdraw the money.  Who walks around with $6,000 on them?  A cashier's check would be better (and cheaper than a money order).  You simply go to your bank, pay a minimal fee ($1 or $2) and the cashier's check is drawn on your bank account.  Either way the money withdrawn would still show up on their bank statement.  Why go to all that extra trouble when the court would have settled for just a personal check that you can write in the comfort of your home??

Could someone please tell me if I heard this right.  First Kwame said he signed those 2 checks (which totaled $240,000) over to Carlita.  And also says that he has no idea what happened to them after that.  He assumed she deposited them in her account but couldn't say for sure.  Then later, when the prosecutor asked him if he paid any of his restitution out of those checks, he replied, "yes".   Did anyone else catch this?

 (Okay, so if he didn't know what Carlita did with the money, how does he know that some of his restitution was paid out of it?)  Hmmmmm  could there be a perjury charge on this?

Doodles  do you have a link to prove the Kilpatricks gave support to Mr. Obama?  As fas as I know, the Kilpatrics were not supporters of his.  Please provide proof of the support and the approval of the President of the United States of America letting the crooks named Kilpatrick  escape the legal system. Please provide a date when the Presidnt called  off an investigation of wrong doing by the Kilpatricks. Thanking you in advance.

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Commercial real estate is the next bailout and it will be worse than the housing market mess.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20091101&id=10621762

Laura Berman

From the Manoogian to the doghouse: Now Carlita Kilpatrick calls the shots

The onetime mayor of Detroit came back to testify Thursday, but the most intriguing person mentioned in the courtroom wasn't there.

Carlita Kilpatrick, Detroit's enigmatic good wife, endured the humiliations of all those messages on the "2 Way," that infernal Sky-Tel message system, but she never had it easy.

From the party at the Manoogian -- the one that never happened -- to the fuss over her Navigator, Mrs. K's ride as first spouse kept getting bumpier. Then, as her husband explained, to media gathered outside the courthouse: "I put my family, my wife and my children, through an incredible year of tremendous pain."

Really, was it only a year?

Like TV's new heroine, who remakes herself while her husband pads in jail, Carlita's calling the shots now, living in a suburban mansion while her husband tries to crawl out of the doghouse. Yes, they physically share the space, but if you believe the mayor's testimony, she wields the power now, from managing the tax records and bank accounts to controlling the future of their relationship.

The transplanted Texan and former mayor used to hide his comings and goings from the woman referred to in text messages as CEK (Carlita Ebony Kilpatrick). Now, he confessed he's "in a period where there are some things, as we work out these issues, that I don't know."

Like what, you ask?

For starters, there's the first $150,000 -- doled out in five checks of $30,000 each -- from four Detroit businessmen that Kilpatrick signed over to his wife. And assumes she cashed. Over a year, $1.2 million moved through their five checking and savings accounts, but if you want to know what happened, you'll have to ask his wife.

By KK's account, every financial decision is hers to make, the tax returns hers to oversee. And his friends -- including international bridge financier Manuel Moroun -- are hers now, too. Even though she doesn't know Moroun, he sent her and the children $50,000 to tide them over while Kilpatrick served his jail term.

Yes, they live in the same house, but Kilpatrick says he's clueless about her occupation. Homemaker or careerist?

"I don't know," Kilpatrick told Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Athina Siringas when asked if his wife works.

(His lawyer, Michael Alan Schwartz, said he'd have to deliver "a four-hour seminar on constitutional law to explain why he said that.").

Once the most powerful man in Detroit, the former mayor hinted that he's still trying to win back his wife but is uncertain where his future lies.

In her last vivid scene in Detroit, Mrs. K. played the public loyalist, staring lovingly as her husband promised a comeback.

Now it's her turn to rule.

Lots of people want to be paid, and Kilpatrick said they would be, because he earnestly wants to do what's right.

But if you listened closely, he suggested that of all his creditors -- the businessmen who lent him money, the city of Detroit, the expensive lawyers -- count. But one powerful person loomed largest in his comments.

"I want to make my wife happy," he said, moving her to the front of the creditor line. "I owe a great deal of restitution to my wife."

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Laura Berman

From the Manoogian to the doghouse: Now Carlita Kilpatrick calls the shots

The onetime mayor of Detroit came back to testify Thursday, but the most intriguing person mentioned in the courtroom wasn't there.

Carlita Kilpatrick, Detroit's enigmatic good wife, endured the humiliations of all those messages on the "2 Way," that infernal Sky-Tel message system, but she never had it easy.

From the party at the Manoogian -- the one that never happened -- to the fuss over her Navigator, Mrs. K's ride as first spouse kept getting bumpier. Then, as her husband explained, to media gathered outside the courthouse: "I put my family, my wife and my children, through an incredible year of tremendous pain."

Really, was it only a year?

Like Julianne Margulies who plays "the good wife" in the new CBS series, Carlita Kilpatrick's displeasure with her husband has been obscured by the conventions of her role. Every political wife's list of concerns now includes the question of when her spouse is going hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

Like TV's new heroine, who remakes herself while her husband pads in jail, Carlita's calling the shots now, living in a suburban mansion while her husband tries to crawl out of the doghouse. Yes, they physically share the space, but if you believe the mayor's testimony, she wields the power now, from managing the tax records and bank accounts to controlling the future of their relationship.

The transplanted Texan and former mayor used to hide his comings and goings from the woman referred to in text messages as CEK (Carlita Ebony Kilpatrick). Now, he confessed he's "in a period where there are some things, as we work out these issues, that I don't know."

Like what, you ask?

For starters, there's the first $150,000 -- doled out in five checks of $30,000 each -- from four Detroit businessmen that Kilpatrick signed over to his wife. And assumes she cashed. Over a year, $1.2 million moved through their five checking and savings accounts, but if you want to know what happened, you'll have to ask his wife.

By KK's account, every financial decision is hers to make, the tax returns hers to oversee. And his friends -- including international bridge financier Manuel Moroun -- are hers now, too. Even though she doesn't know Moroun, he sent her and the children $50,000 to tide them over while Kilpatrick served his jail term.

Yes, they live in the same house, but Kilpatrick says he's clueless about her occupation. Homemaker or careerist?

"I don't know," Kilpatrick told Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Athina Siringas when asked if his wife works.

(His lawyer, Michael Alan Schwartz, said he'd have to deliver "a four-hour seminar on constitutional law to explain why he said that.").

Once the most powerful man in Detroit, the former mayor hinted that he's still trying to win back his wife but is uncertain where his future lies.

In her last vivid scene in Detroit, Mrs. K. played the public loyalist, staring lovingly as her husband promised a comeback.

Now it's her turn to rule.

Lots of people want to be paid, and Kilpatrick said they would be, because he earnestly wants to do what's right.

But if you listened closely, he suggested that of all his creditors -- the businessmen who lent him money, the city of Detroit, the expensive lawyers -- count. But one powerful person loomed largest in his comments.

"I want to make my wife happy," he said, moving her to the front of the creditor line. "I owe a great deal of restitution to my wife."

Schwartz could deliver a 4 hours seminar on constitutional law to explain why Kwame said "I don't know" in reference to whether Carlita works, and probably for all the other I don't know's.  It was Kwame's way of taking the fifth being as he wasn't allowed to for this proceeding.  Duh. 

This article suggests that kwame doesn't have control over much of his life anymore, which is bu!!sh!t.

Don't for one minute think he doesn't know what is going on and where the money is coming from and going to.