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  •  11-09-2009, 6:10 PM 4266535 in reply to 4266415

    Re: amazing internet.....

    Tushana:

    wow girl! gr you did great investigative work :0)

    Thank you : )     It's all there but sometimes finding the phrase to use is very hard. Sometimes though it just pops up the first time. Gosh, what did we do before the internet when we had to rely on our memories? : ~ (
    Get Real
  •  11-09-2009, 7:09 PM 4266542 in reply to 4266535

    Re: amazing internet.....

    get real:
    Tushana:

    wow girl! gr you did great investigative work :0)

    Thank you : )     It's all there but sometimes finding the phrase to use is very hard. Sometimes though it just pops up the first time. Gosh, what did we do before the internet when we had to rely on our memories? : ~ (
    Politicians got away with a lot more "stuff".
  •  11-09-2009, 8:48 PM 4266557 in reply to 4266306

    Re: amazing internet.....

    From the article:

    According to Rogers, Greene alleged that she and two other strippers were dancing at a party at the mayoral mansion when Carlita Kilpatrick arrived unexpectedly. The report claimed that Greene sought medical attention, Rogers said. After looking at it, Rogers said she put the report in the "incoming" basket.

    We know what happened to Tamara Greene, and wasn't one found in Atlanta?  Ok, what about the third?  Has anyone heard any thing about her?  Weren't the dancer hired out of a business?  That business would know who the third one was, so why hasn't anything ever came out about that?  Any idea?


    Get Real
  •  11-09-2009, 9:01 PM 4266564 in reply to 4266557

    Re: amazing internet.....

    get real:

    From the article:

    According to Rogers, Greene alleged that she and two other strippers were dancing at a party at the mayoral mansion when Carlita Kilpatrick arrived unexpectedly. The report claimed that Greene sought medical attention, Rogers said. After looking at it, Rogers said she put the report in the "incoming" basket.

    We know what happened to Tamara Greene, and wasn't one found in Atlanta?  Ok, what about the third?  Has anyone heard any thing about her?  Weren't the dancer hired out of a business?  That business would know who the third one was, so why hasn't anything ever came out about that?  Any idea?



    The attorneys for The City of Detroit will try their best to discredit Mrs, Rodgers. But she, the DPD officers, the Michigan Troopers, The EMS personnel ALL couldn't be wrong. The City of Detroit will make a claim that the evidence is circumstantial. However, time after time, many cases with circumstantial evidence were strong enough to go to trial. KK and Co. are trying very hard, to this day to quash this, but for some reason this case is being kept alive.

    I feel Yatooma will win a multi-million dollar settlement against the City of Detroit. The City, should turn around and SUE Kwame Kilpatrick and all those involved in this cover-up.

    To the grace of God, I surely hope Mike Cox doesn't get elected as governor. He has a lot of nerves even attempting to do so with all them damn skeletons in his closet! Is it me, or is he always turning beet red in the face when he's under pressure?

    I've been reading the posts on yesterday's Free Press article. There's a lot of comments regarding a rape occuring at the Manoogian Mansion and the offender happens to be one of the parties who "loaned" KK money. What the heck is going on?
  •  11-10-2009, 6:05 AM 4266719 in reply to 4266542

    Re: amazing internet.....

    punky1:
    get real:
    Tushana:

    wow girl! gr you did great investigative work :0)

    Thank you : )     It's all there but sometimes finding the phrase to use is very hard. Sometimes though it just pops up the first time. Gosh, what did we do before the internet when we had to rely on our memories? : ~ (
    Politicians got away with a lot more "stuff".

    for some strange reason I did pretty well without the internet.  Regardless the internet is a blessing to many. 

  •  11-10-2009, 6:10 AM 4266722 in reply to 4266564

    Re: amazing internet.....

    ksr1966:
    get real:

    From the article:

    According to Rogers, Greene alleged that she and two other strippers were dancing at a party at the mayoral mansion when Carlita Kilpatrick arrived unexpectedly. The report claimed that Greene sought medical attention, Rogers said. After looking at it, Rogers said she put the report in the "incoming" basket.

    We know what happened to Tamara Greene, and wasn't one found in Atlanta?  Ok, what about the third?  Has anyone heard any thing about her?  Weren't the dancer hired out of a business?  That business would know who the third one was, so why hasn't anything ever came out about that?  Any idea?



    The attorneys for The City of Detroit will try their best to discredit Mrs, Rodgers. But she, the DPD officers, the Michigan Troopers, The EMS personnel ALL couldn't be wrong. The City of Detroit will make a claim that the evidence is circumstantial. However, time after time, many cases with circumstantial evidence were strong enough to go to trial. KK and Co. are trying very hard, to this day to quash this, but for some reason this case is being kept alive.

    I feel Yatooma will win a multi-million dollar settlement against the City of Detroit. The City, should turn around and SUE Kwame Kilpatrick and all those involved in this cover-up.

    To the grace of God, I surely hope Mike Cox doesn't get elected as governor. He has a lot of nerves even attempting to do so with all them damn skeletons in his closet! Is it me, or is he always turning beet red in the face when he's under pressure?

    I've been reading the posts on yesterday's Free Press article. There's a lot of comments regarding a rape occuring at the Manoogian Mansion and the offender happens to be one of the parties who "loaned" KK money. What the heck is going on?

    we may never know all that went on in that mansion.  Just too much keeps surfacing.  Some fact some fiction with much speculation too.  We all love to see mysteries get solved and this is one of them.  With the "bad" ones being exposed and punished. :0)  Hopefully the cover-up, if there was one has some cracks that will allow whatever happened to be exposed.  There was a party so I am going to assume given that fact that something happened if they had to deny a "party" occurred.  In the Detroit arena of dancers and "shems" there was a party. 

  •  11-10-2009, 7:20 AM 4266753 in reply to 4266062

    Re: Interesting questions

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  •  11-10-2009, 11:07 AM 4266850 in reply to 4266753

    Re: Interesting questions

    Just came to the conclution that all the peoplle that gave Kwame money had to be at the Manoogian Party, and they are trying to keep it quiet including Mike Cox. Yatooma will get all that out someone will come forward
  •  11-10-2009, 11:09 AM 4266853 in reply to 4266850

    Re: Interesting questions

    Detroit lawyer denies lying to judge in text scandal

    She's accused of legal misconduct in case

    BY JOE SWICKARD
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    Detroit city lawyer Valerie Colbert-Osamuede did not lie to Wayne County Circuit Judge Robert Colombo last year when she said that she didn't know of any confidentiality agreements leading to the $8.4-million settlement of a police whistle-blower lawsuit, her attorney said in a legal filing Monday.


    Donald Campbell said it "is utterly preposterous" for the Attorney Grievance Commission to ask for a ruling that she committed legal misconduct on a charge that she deliberately misled the judge in January 2008. He also argued that a letter she sent Colombo months later was not too late to correct the matter.

    The allegation is one of five misconduct charges lodged against Colbert-Osamuede for her role in a secret deal to hide explosive text messages in the scandal that toppled then-Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

    After telling the judge in January 2008 that she didn't know about a confidential deal, Colbert-Osamuede wrote a letter to the judge that April, amending her statements.

    "I have discovered ... my answers did not fully reflect all of the circumstances," she wrote. "The responses to the court's questions were my best recollection at the time and were truthful."

    She also is charged with failing to tell the Detroit City Council about the text messages at the time city lawyers were urging council members to approve the settlement of the whistle-blower cases, and with putting Kilpatrick's interests ahead of the city's.

    No date has been set on her misconduct trial.

    Contact JOE SWICKARD: 313-222-8769 or

  •  11-10-2009, 12:04 PM 4266872 in reply to 4266853

    Re: Interesting questions

    miamia3:

    Detroit lawyer denies lying to judge in text scandal

    She's accused of legal misconduct in case

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    FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

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    Detroit city lawyer Valerie Colbert-Osamuede did not lie to Wayne County Circuit Judge Robert Colombo last year when she said that she didn't know of any confidentiality agreements leading to the $8.4-million settlement of a police whistle-blower lawsuit, her attorney said in a legal filing Monday.


    Donald Campbell said it "is utterly preposterous" for the Attorney Grievance Commission to ask for a ruling that she committed legal misconduct on a charge that she deliberately misled the judge in January 2008. He also argued that a letter she sent Colombo months later was not too late to correct the matter.

    The allegation is one of five misconduct charges lodged against Colbert-Osamuede for her role in a secret deal to hide explosive text messages in the scandal that toppled then-Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick.

    After telling the judge in January 2008 that she didn't know about a confidential deal, Colbert-Osamuede wrote a letter to the judge that April, amending her statements.

    "I have discovered ... my answers did not fully reflect all of the circumstances," she wrote. "The responses to the court's questions were my best recollection at the time and were truthful."

    She also is charged with failing to tell the Detroit City Council about the text messages at the time city lawyers were urging council members to approve the settlement of the whistle-blower cases, and with putting Kilpatrick's interests ahead of the city's.

    No date has been set on her misconduct trial.

    Contact JOE SWICKARD: 313-222-8769 or

     

    "NO DATE HAS BEEN SET ON HER MISCONDUCT TRIAL"?????

    Why the hell not?  It's been almost two years!!!!

    How can they keep these incompetent liars on the payroll for so long?  And what ever happened to those other lawyer creeps, who, while working for the city, actually worked on behalf of the Kwamster instead?   

  •  11-10-2009, 1:01 PM 4266886 in reply to 4266872

    That's not gum, dumba$$

    Scraping the gum from Atty. General Cox's shoe

    Next year's gubernatorial campaign ought to be about Michigan's priorities and how to fund them. But if he means to participate meaningfully in that campaign, Attorney General Mike Cox must answer questions about his investigation into a rumored 2002 assault at Detroit's mayoral mansion more forthrightly than he has to date.

    In a sworn deposition first revealed publicly in Sunday's Free Press, Michigan State Police Det. Mark Krebs testified last month that Cox and top executives in the Detroit Police Department repeatedly thwarted efforts to examine evidence and interview witnesses Krebs and his colleagues believed could shed light on allegations that then-first lady Carlita Kilpatrick had assaulted a stripper at the Manoogian Mansion in September 2002.

    Lawyer Norman Yatooma, who alleges in a lawsuit filed on behalf of the late Tamara Greene's children that DPD deliberately compromised the investigation of Greene's 2003 homicide, says Krebs' testimony bolsters his theory that then-Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his political allies choreographed cover-ups of both the alleged Manoogian assault and Greene's slaying.

    Cox has agreed to answer Yatooma's questions about the AG's Manoogian investigation -- which ended in Kilpatrick's exoneration when Cox famously dismissed the rumored party and assault as "urban legend" -- in a yet-to-be-scheduled deposition in the Greene case. If the AG hopes to change the subject of his gubernatorial campaign back to jobs and economic development, that deposition can't be taken or be made public soon enough.

    Among the questions to which Cox owes the public detailed, candid answers:

    • Did the AG's office condone DPD's refusal to provide evidence sought by state police investigators, as Krebs asserts -- and if so, why?

    • Was the state police attempt to subpoena hospital records investigators hoped would identify the alleged Manoogian assault victim a fishing expedition involving the records of "thousands of African-American women at Detroit Receiving," as Cox has previously asserted, or a narrowly focused inquiry into one three-hour period, as Krebs testified? And if Krebs' version is correct, why did the AG's office refuse to authorize the subpoena?

    • Why did Cox close down his investigation and pressure the state police to conclude its own before Krebs and his colleagues were satisfied with its thoroughness?

    • What did Cox hope to achieve by interviewing Kilpatrick himself, without placing the mayor under oath or making a record of the interview?

    In a recent visit to the Free Press, Cox described the Manoogian matter as "gum on my shoe" and expressed the hope that "it will wear off if I just keep on walking."

    But that metaphor fails to acknowledge either the lingering questions about Cox's own judgment or the role his hastily concluded investigation has played in keeping rumors about Greene's death alive.

    Those who insist that Cox defend that judgment aren't fanning rumors so much as exercising due diligence, and we trust the attorney general will respond with alacrity and candor.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Cox needs to clean up the bullcrap coming out of his mouth instead of worrying about the gum on his shoe. And what the heck is he referring to when he says gum on his shoe. Does he consider Tamara Greene's murder and subsequent cover-up akin to a dirty stick of gum stuck to the bottom of his shoe?

  •  11-10-2009, 1:19 PM 4266896 in reply to 4266872

    Off topic - Goldman Sachs doing God's work

    Goldman Sach's, the architects of the current economic depression hittin the nation say they are doing God's work. These are the same guys that sold a bunch of derivatives and crappy mortgages to themselves and everybody else but somehow knew when to bail out and leave the rest of the banks and the rest of the country partially lubed and anally assaulted. They must be following the same God that Kwame follows cause it sure isn't the God I believe in.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6907681.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

    On a completely different note: I am soooo friggin sick of folks saying the phrase "At the end of the day..." It was one of Monica Conyers favorite phrases and it is a moronic friggin phrase. Now everyone seems to have picked up on it.

    At the end of the day, if I ever hear anyone say that phrase within 10 feet of me I will hunt them down and dispatch them from the gene pool with a vengeance....or maybe just say something mean to them and run away.

  •  11-10-2009, 1:46 PM 4266904 in reply to 4266886

    Re: That's not gum, dumba$$

    Cox is a sneaky dirtbag. Karmanos is a user. Channel 4 last night had a retired cop ( MSP and well respected) say he stung Dan Gilbert in a loan shark, betting ring. Gilbert was a shakedown artist. Then Gilbert is quoted as saying it is all a lie. Then a Gilbert spokesman tries to back track and confuse. There is a reason why some of these players get in high positions of governemnt and business. A lot of them are swindlers, liars and cheats. Very few of our politicians are honest. 
  •  11-10-2009, 3:38 PM 4266954 in reply to 4266243

    Re: SS Kwame

    taxpayer:

    A couple years back an elderly lady came forward. I think she was a former clerk or maybe 911 operator. She had just retired and she said that she had seen paperwork about Carlita and Tamara Green being beaten. The poor dear was very frightened after making her statements and she moved to Southfield. I hope Tammy's lawyer speaks with her as well. Anyone recall what I am talking about? Or am I just having another hallucination?

    OMG I just posted that under the Cox story.  DO YOU remember that???  And she ended up receiving death threats after that coming out.  She did a great justice, that's when things got heated up.
  •  11-10-2009, 6:40 PM 4267013 in reply to 4266954

    Off topic- Obama's budget cut reality

    The following youtube video uses pennies to illustrate how insignificant the cuts in federal spending really are.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE&feature=related

    Keep in mind as you are watching this video that it does not count the $787 Billion stimulus package or the $83 Billion for Iraq. That's a total of $870 Billion which would equal another 435 stacks of pennies on the table...borrowed money. Remember, each stack of five pennies represents $2 Billion dollars.

    Another video by the same guy shows how many jobs were saved by the stimulus package. The funniest part of the video to me is the beer bottle on the table as the guy lays out all them pennies. These guys have way too much time and beer money but they make learning FUNdamental. lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJu0DgpiK8c&feature=related

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