You know, (or maybe you don't) getting thrown under the bus is very common in politics. To save one's self is first, and foremost ALL politicians do it. And generally, it's the staff that eventually suffers the consequences. So to truly KNOW what was on someone's heart, and mind only they know for sure. So any comments are basically speculation. That is why the matter is in a Court of Law to be determined. So whether you do, or don't accept the process. That is the ONLY venue that the opinion will carry ANY weight. 

GLDDET:

   You know, (or maybe you don't) getting thrown under the bus is very common in politics. To save one's self is first, and foremost ALL politicians do it. And generally, it's the staff that eventually suffers the consequences. So to truly KNOW what was on someone's heart, and mind only they know for sure. So any comments are basically speculation. That is why the matter is in a Court of Law to be determined. So whether you do, or don't accept the process. That is the ONLY venue that the opinion will carry ANY weight. 

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Yet the speculation is so much fun.

Cheryl48:

GLDDET:

   You know, (or maybe you don't) getting thrown under the bus is very common in politics. To save one's self is first, and foremost ALL politicians do it. And generally, it's the staff that eventually suffers the consequences. So to truly KNOW what was on someone's heart, and mind only they know for sure. So any comments are basically speculation. That is why the matter is in a Court of Law to be determined. So whether you do, or don't accept the process. That is the ONLY venue that the opinion will carry ANY weight. 

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Yet the speculation is so much fun.

   Remember the most important aspect of these text messages  is simply this. They "DO" exist, and that is why the Mayor has his boxers in a bunch over it. And his representation is fighting tooth, and nail to suppress this evidence. Irregardless, his butt is in this thing because of something he "willingly" did ALL on his own. And it's quite evident he chose NOT to give up his "playa's card".

Tomorrow Kym Worthy will make the appeal to recuse the 36th District judges.

   Well, Judge Giles denied the appeal. And, In My Opinion that was to be expected. Everybody wants this trial over and done with. And there will not be a quick fix.

The clock is ticking for kk and friends.... they're starting to make bigger mistakes.

Bigger mistakes?  I believe the mistakes have been very big but, Detroiters don't appear to mind.
KK should GO GO.  He (and his FAMILY and FRIENDS) have done MORE damage to the city than I can remember in my 62 yrs!!!!

SkyJoe:

Bigger mistakes?  I believe the mistakes have been very big but, Detroiters don't appear to mind.
KK should GO GO.  He (and his FAMILY and FRIENDS) have done MORE damage to the city than I can remember in my 62 yrs!!!!

 

   Well I'm 52, and I am a Native Detroiter and I DO mind. And yet, I will allow the Courts to do their job. Anybody can say anything they want from the outside looking in. But, I am a bit concerned that all of the quick fixers think by eliminating Kilpatrick is going to automatically fix everything. That corruption in Politics are just going to go away. You need to stop getting your pie from the sky. Get your feet back on the ground where the real people reside. I can't stop anyone from voicing their opinions, but I can at least put a hole or two in their theory. 

GLDDET:

Cheryl48:

GLDDET:

   You know, (or maybe you don't) getting thrown under the bus is very common in politics. To save one's self is first, and foremost ALL politicians do it. And generally, it's the staff that eventually suffers the consequences. So to truly KNOW what was on someone's heart, and mind only they know for sure. So any comments are basically speculation. That is why the matter is in a Court of Law to be determined. So whether you do, or don't accept the process. That is the ONLY venue that the opinion will carry ANY weight. 

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Yet the speculation is so much fun.

   Remember the most important aspect of these text messages  is simply this. They "DO" exist, and that is why the Mayor has his boxers in a bunch over it. And his representation is fighting tooth, and nail to suppress this evidence. Irregardless, his butt is in this thing because of something he "willingly" did ALL on his own. And it's quite evident he chose NOT to give up his "playa's card".

 

IRREGARDLESS????

Yes, I know it is in the dictionary today, the devolution of our language continues.  The proper term is "regardless"....in other words, without regard, no matter what, etc.  Irregardless by definition would mean not without regard, or to put it plainly, with regard.  It reverses the meaning, and makes no sense.  I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning. 

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHY HE IS GETTING AWAY WITH THIS?  THIS DOESN'T ONLY AFFECT THE CITY OF DETROIT, IT EFFECTS ALL OF US IN MICHIGAN.  WHERE EVER WE GO, IF WE SAY WE ARE FROM MICHIGAN, WE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS MESS WITH THE MAYOR.  WHEN ASKED BY THE MEDIA, THE PEOPLE OF DETROIT SAY THEY BACK HIM UP, THEY WOULD VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN.  WHY?  WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS WHEN HE HAS SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS?  I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE I LIVE IN MICHIGAN.  I WOULD ASK THE JUDGE TO PLEASE GET THIS HANDLED SO THE CITY AND ALL OF MICHIGAN CAN TRY AND MOVE ON, AND REPAIR THE DAMAGE TO OUR REPUTATION.  DEB B. CHESTERFIELD TOWNSHIP

reverend G:

GLDDET:

Cheryl48:

GLDDET:

   You know, (or maybe you don't) getting thrown under the bus is very common in politics. To save one's self is first, and foremost ALL politicians do it. And generally, it's the staff that eventually suffers the consequences. So to truly KNOW what was on someone's heart, and mind only they know for sure. So any comments are basically speculation. That is why the matter is in a Court of Law to be determined. So whether you do, or don't accept the process. That is the ONLY venue that the opinion will carry ANY weight. 

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Yet the speculation is so much fun.

   Remember the most important aspect of these text messages  is simply this. They "DO" exist, and that is why the Mayor has his boxers in a bunch over it. And his representation is fighting tooth, and nail to suppress this evidence. Irregardless, his butt is in this thing because of something he "willingly" did ALL on his own. And it's quite evident he chose NOT to give up his "playa's card".

 

IRREGARDLESS????

Yes, I know it is in the dictionary today, the devolution of our language continues.  The proper term is "regardless"....in other words, without regard, no matter what, etc.  Irregardless by definition would mean not without regard, or to put it plainly, with regard.  It reverses the meaning, and makes no sense.  I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning. 

 

   Once again a johnny come lately gets their panties in a bunch with their interpretation of what " I " said. If this is going to be your contribution to these Forums you are wasting your time, and your words. My OPINIONS are mine and I am entitled to them. You can comment all you choose, but it will have no real effect on my thought process. Give me some time and I will show you I have already had this conversation with others. So whether you like it or not, and you CHOOSE to attack what I say don't worry eventually I will ignore anything you have to say.

IRREGARDLESS????
Yes, I know it is in the dictionary today, the devolution of our language continues.  The proper term is "regardless"....in other words, without regard, no matter what, etc.  Irregardless by definition would mean not without regard, or to put it plainly, with regard.  It reverses the meaning, and makes no sense.  I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning

 

   Well since you DIDN'T get a memo, an IM, a PM, or the word that I am a stark raving idiot with a capitol " I " . I will show you how I would have respected you in your approach to dress me down in front of the other posters.

  IRREGARDLESS  adv.  Non-Standard    Regardless.

Usage: Irregardless is a form that many people mistakenly believe to be a correct usage in formal style but that in fact has no legitimate antecedents in either standard or nonstandard varieties.

   " I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning "

   And I don't take offense to anyone who question's my vocabulary, considering if they don't take the time to articulate the language any better than I do to point it out to me. Believe what you want, because unlike you I know you are entitled to your opinion. Because as it stands right now there will never be a time that you will ever agree with ANYTHING I say even if you do.

   And since you were adamant about my word last I checked "DEVOLUTION" I can't find it in ANY of my dictionaries, or any of my  thesaurus'.  Devold, devolve, Devonian, devote, devoted, devotee, devotion, devour, and devout. So before you dress me down at least do it flawlessly for your OWN credibility. 

GLDDET:

IRREGARDLESS????
Yes, I know it is in the dictionary today, the devolution of our language continues.  The proper term is "regardless"....in other words, without regard, no matter what, etc.  Irregardless by definition would mean not without regard, or to put it plainly, with regard.  It reverses the meaning, and makes no sense.  I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning

 

   Well since you DIDN'T get a memo, an IM, a PM, or the word that I am a stark raving idiot with a capitol " I " . I will show you how I would have respected you in your approach to dress me down in front of the other posters.

  IRREGARDLESS  adv.  Non-Standard    Regardless.

Usage: Irregardless is a form that many people mistakenly believe to be a correct usage in formal style but that in fact has no legitimate antecedents in either standard or nonstandard varieties.

   " I chalk the usage up to people so pumped on sounding like they are sophisticated in their vocabulary that they add syllables without considering what it does to the meaning "

   And I don't take offense to anyone who question's my vocabulary, considering if they don't take the time to articulate the language any better than I do to point it out to me. Believe what you want, because unlike you I know you are entitled to your opinion. Because as it stands right now there will never be a time that you will ever agree with ANYTHING I say even if you do.

   And since you were adamant about my word last I checked "DEVOLUTION" I can't find it in ANY of my dictionaries, or any of my  thesaurus'.  Devold, devolve, Devonian, devote, devoted, devotee, devotion, devour, and devout. So before you dress me down at least do it flawlessly for your OWN credibility. 

 

I said that the word is in the dictionary....and as you have stated, it is non-standard.  That means it is not used according to what it means.  Take the word by pieces   ir----meaning, "not",  regard.....multiple meanings, and less..."without".  So it means not without regard.  By context, you obviously meant "regardless".  My given reason for why people have to add an "ir" to a term that is quite correct without it stands, that is  becoming  accepted is sad.  It used to be that people were taught about the fallacy of double negatives.

As to devolve, (devolution), you need to look again.  An accepted definition is "degeneration"....you may be familiar with it as de-evolution, but I assure you, devolution is quite correct.  Things devolve, it is more correct in my opinion than de-evolve.

   Devolution  n.  1. A passing down through successive stages.  2. The passing to a successorof something, such as properties, rights, and qualities.  3. A delegating of authority or duties to a subordinate or substitute.  4. A transfer of powers from a central government to local units.  5. Biol.. Degeneration as distinguished from evolution. [Med. Lat. devolutio < Lat. devolutus, p.part. of devolvere, to roll down.  -- see devolve]

 

   Upon further review I stand corrected. If it is worth anything I apologize for any remarks that were un-necessary. Some of my to the ready reference materials are from my college days. So some of them may be outdated. It has been at least 25 years since college. And that is no excuse to not ensure that your factural material is not current.

GLDDET:

   Devolution  n.  1. A passing down through successive stages.  2. The passing to a successorof something, such as properties, rights, and qualities.  3. A delegating of authority or duties to a subordinate or substitute.  4. A transfer of powers from a central government to local units.  5. Biol.. Degeneration as distinguished from evolution. [Med. Lat. devolutio < Lat. devolutus, p.part. of devolvere, to roll down.  -- see devolve]

 

   Upon further review I stand corrected. If it is worth anything I apologize for any remarks that were un-necessary. Some of my to the ready reference materials are from my college days. So some of them may be outdated. It has been at least 25 years since college. And that is no excuse to not ensure that your factural material is not current.

 

No offense taken, nor meant towards you.  I do appreciate your taking the time to do a bit of research.  My college days were in the early 80's so I understand what you mean!!  Actually, I must apologize for taking the time out of the forum to indulge my pet peeve.  Though my own vocabulary is far from perfect itself, I do get aggravated by some word usage (irregardless, etc...), even if it has become accepted into usage today.  Back in the 80's, it wasn't listed as "non-standard", it was just wrong.  Like I said, just my pet peeve getting indulged, but thank you for accomodating it.