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Mayor's Scandal: Prosecutor's Decision
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Re: {{{{{{{{{{ WHERE'S KK, AND IT'S BIG RED DRESS }}}}}}}}}}}
rvtwitty: erikahicks:why is it that he has to be a thug?????is it because he is young and black???????or is it that he wears what he wants to wear/???????let's think about what he has done and stay away from the things that we dont like yes he has done some bad things but look at what he has done.....get a life and get over it....
I wish people like you would grow a brain and get a clue. He is a thug for numerous reasons. He lies, cheats , and steals. Not to mention that poor lady Tamara Green that ended up dead . Kwame wants to stay in office so he can personally see the evidence destroyed that should put him behind bars. How many of your family can you get civil service jobs for with benefits. It is people like you that elected this crud into office. He is dragging Detroit down, we are the laughing stock of this country. Are you able to afford luxury trips with massages, expensive champagne and dinners, all on the taxpayers backs? The fat cats that do this crap are getting caught in this day and age and are going to jail.
GREAT RESPONSE! Everything (and more) that I would have said.
He is also a thug because he is living so largely while his "subjects" are barely getting minimal city services. His "let them eat cake" attitude even spills over into his desire to have the best attorneys money can buy, and let the city pay for it. Have you seen the "Yall's boy You Tube???? It shows how much the thug and his family think of the stooges citizens who put him in office. When it is your money ,the sky is the limit, but when the money comes out of their pocket-that is something else. For instance, chocolate covered strawberries while getting a massage? acceptable. Paying $1.00 a page for court records-that is unacceptable. You figure out why he is a THUG-the real reason is that that is the nicest thing we can refer to him as.
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05-12-2008, 11:12 AM |
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Laura56
Is it true,though, that he is trying to stall so he can stay in office long enough to get lifetime medical and pensions?
We are so lucky to have you for these questions! We all missed you last week. Hope your Mothers Day was great.
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05-12-2008, 11:13 AM |
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Gene210:IS MONICA CONYERS AS DUMB AS she LOOKS?????????????
I think I can say with some confidence, having never met her, SHE'S PROBABLY DUMBER!!
But this could be all an act, or a show, in order to position herself. I think she's dumb like a fox.
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05-12-2008, 11:20 AM |
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duchess:Laura56
Is it true,though, that he is trying to stall so he can stay in office long enough to get lifetime medical and pensions?
We are so lucky to have you for these questions! We all missed you last week. Hope your Mothers Day was great.
Thanks Duchess - I can't tell you if he's stalling or not for his pension. I've never seen the City of Detroit pension plan, so I don't know about vestment etc.
I've read somewhere on this site that to be fully vested for medical/pension for life it takes 10 years continuous employment. He won't make the 10 years come November anyway.
I believe Kwame really thinks he will be vindicated as he says and everything will be back to normal after the trial and he will overwhelmingly win re-election in 2009. I don't think he'll resign ever - his ego is too tied to the position. The sociopath in him won't allow anything else.
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05-12-2008, 11:24 AM |
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Mayor vesting? Some believe that the reason Mayor Kilpatrick has not made a decision to step down and his lawyers are stalling is so Mayor Kilpatrick can wait until after November when he will have 10 years as a public servant and will be vested into a pension. Whether that is true or not is unknown but like former City Councilmember Alonzo Bates any pension money owed Kilpatrick should go to the city to pay back the $8.4 million owed tax payers.
IT'S GOING TO TRY TO SKIM EVEN MORE MONEY OUT OF DEBTROIT IF IT CAN STAY IN OFFICE LONG ENOUGH.
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05-12-2008, 11:27 AM |
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OH YES IT'S TRUE, CITY COUNCIL MUST GET IT OUT OF OFFICE REAL SOON.
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05-12-2008, 11:28 AM |
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duchess:
rvtwitty: erikahicks:why is it that he has to be a thug?????is it because he is young and black???????or is it that he wears what he wants to wear/???????let's think about what he has done and stay away from the things that we dont like yes he has done some bad things but look at what he has done.....get a life and get over it....
I wish people like you would grow a brain and get a clue. He is a thug for numerous reasons. He lies, cheats , and steals. Not to mention that poor lady Tamara Green that ended up dead . Kwame wants to stay in office so he can personally see the evidence destroyed that should put him behind bars. How many of your family can you get civil service jobs for with benefits. It is people like you that elected this crud into office. He is dragging Detroit down, we are the laughing stock of this country. Are you able to afford luxury trips with massages, expensive champagne and dinners, all on the taxpayers backs? The fat cats that do this crap are getting caught in this day and age and are going to jail.
GREAT RESPONSE! Everything (and more) that I would have said.
He is also a thug because he is living so largely while his "subjects" are barely getting minimal city services. His "let them eat cake" attitude even spills over into his desire to have the best attorneys money can buy, and let the city pay for it. Have you seen the "Yall's boy You Tube???? It shows how much the thug and his family think of the stooges citizens who put him in office. When it is your money ,the sky is the limit, but when the money comes out of their pocket-that is something else. For instance, chocolate covered strawberries while getting a massage? acceptable. Paying $1.00 a page for court records-that is unacceptable. You figure out why he is a THUG-the real reason is that that is the nicest thing we can refer to him as.
Duchess and rvtwitty - great responses!
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05-12-2008, 11:35 AM |
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Re: Who got the Biggest Raises?
Missy55367: Cheryl48: Laura56: miamia:From Detnews.com:..............and worth a pretty good laugh this morning, Way to go Foghorn,
Kilpatrick lawyer who chided Worthy owes taxes, too Parkman owes Ala. $23,600 after paying off $1M in liens in 2006. Robert Snell / The Detroit News DETROIT -- A member of Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's legal team who scolded Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy for not paying taxes owes $23,602 to the state of Alabama for unpaid income taxes, public records show.
That's only the most recent tax delinquency, though. Since 2005, lawyer James W. Parkman III has paid off more than $1 million in delinquent state and federal taxes, a figure that dwarfs the $31,000 in liens filed against Worthy.
Amazing that Parkman thought that the Detroit press wouldn't find out about his tax problems!!
After his pontification yesterday with Chuck about why he took the case (told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame) today we know the real reason. He needs the money.
After paying off the $1 million in delinquent taxes he probably thought he was justified in condemning Worthy.
Wonder how that smooth southern drawl will spin this? Maybe another football analogy? Maybe this will shut him up for awhile, until they think we'll forget about it. But then that will bring another mouthpiece out front. Yuck, they're all slippery.
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Like Bill Proctor said this morning.........People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Good morning all! Neither fog, nor rain, nor cold, nor wind in Spring will keep me from loving Michigan (most days).
As Laura points out, Parkman said on the program yesterday that he took the case because he was "told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame".
Isn't this disturbing? Usually, you hear these guys state that they just KNOW their client is innocent, that everyone deserves adequate representation, etc. But NONE of Parkman's reasons were noble!
And another thing. Why is it that so many people connected to this case are tax scofflaws? Do any of you even know anyone who doesn't pay their taxes? I don't (or at least I don't know about it, anyway). But since we've been following this case, character after character enter the picture, and we find out that most of them are in arrears in their property and/or income taxes, in parking tickets, fines. etc. I've never seen anything like it! Yet they get appointed to big jobs with the City!
I remember reading this article a while back about CB: http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0502/18/D01-93887.htm
Never have I seen such a tangled mess of finances, from someone who actually held a position of responsibilty in the administration! Where do they find these people?
Parkman, and the rest of the defense team, are Trial Attorneys. You have to remember that all of the time. Trial attorney's are the showmen in the law business and most have had acting classes. Outgoing personalities and the successful ones are smart and quick on their feet. They have to be.
Taking that into consideration, their egos are enormous and they believe they are smarter than everyone else. You know the type. Trouble with taxes - heck they'd enjoy the fight with IRS - disputing a tax law. That's usually how they get in trouble with taxes - they want to interpret a law to benefit themselves, without basis for existing case law. It's the fight they're after. They loose, oh well and on to the next one.
But we need them to vigorously defend the accused. It's a check and balance of our legal system. All clients are innocent, they have to believe it in order to fight the fight.
As for Beattys finances, she was trying to outsmart the system with grants etc.
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05-12-2008, 11:37 AM |
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Re: {{{{{{{{{{ WHERE'S KK, AND IT'S BIG RED DRESS }}}}}}}}}}}
THIS BIT$$ WILL BE OUT OF OFFICE SHORLT TOO, ABOUT TIME.
IF IT WAS RUNNING FOR AN UGLY CONTEST IT WOULD WIN FIRST PLACE.
LETS ALL HOPE SHE TO JOINS HER BOY IN PRISON.
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05-12-2008, 11:37 AM |
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Missy55367: duchess:
rvtwitty: erikahicks:why is it that he has to be a thug?????is it because he is young and black???????or is it that he wears what he wants to wear/???????let's think about what he has done and stay away from the things that we dont like yes he has done some bad things but look at what he has done.....get a life and get over it....
I wish people like you would grow a brain and get a clue. He is a thug for numerous reasons. He lies, cheats , and steals. Not to mention that poor lady Tamara Green that ended up dead . Kwame wants to stay in office so he can personally see the evidence destroyed that should put him behind bars. How many of your family can you get civil service jobs for with benefits. It is people like you that elected this crud into office. He is dragging Detroit down, we are the laughing stock of this country. Are you able to afford luxury trips with massages, expensive champagne and dinners, all on the taxpayers backs? The fat cats that do this crap are getting caught in this day and age and are going to jail.
GREAT RESPONSE! Everything (and more) that I would have said.
He is also a thug because he is living so largely while his "subjects" are barely getting minimal city services. His "let them eat cake" attitude even spills over into his desire to have the best attorneys money can buy, and let the city pay for it. Have you seen the "Yall's boy You Tube???? It shows how much the thug and his family think of the stooges citizens who put him in office. When it is your money ,the sky is the limit, but when the money comes out of their pocket-that is something else. For instance, chocolate covered strawberries while getting a massage? acceptable. Paying $1.00 a page for court records-that is unacceptable. You figure out why he is a THUG-the real reason is that that is the nicest thing we can refer to him as.
Duchess and rvtwitty - great responses!
save your breath eikahicks is moveon/heidelberg/ he/she changes the name every week, no sense even responding
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Re: Who got the Biggest Raises?
Missy55367: Cheryl48: Laura56: miamia:From Detnews.com:..............and worth a pretty good laugh this morning, Way to go Foghorn,
Kilpatrick lawyer who chided Worthy owes taxes, too Parkman owes Ala. $23,600 after paying off $1M in liens in 2006. Robert Snell / The Detroit News DETROIT -- A member of Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's legal team who scolded Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy for not paying taxes owes $23,602 to the state of Alabama for unpaid income taxes, public records show.
That's only the most recent tax delinquency, though. Since 2005, lawyer James W. Parkman III has paid off more than $1 million in delinquent state and federal taxes, a figure that dwarfs the $31,000 in liens filed against Worthy.
Amazing that Parkman thought that the Detroit press wouldn't find out about his tax problems!!
After his pontification yesterday with Chuck about why he took the case (told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame) today we know the real reason. He needs the money.
After paying off the $1 million in delinquent taxes he probably thought he was justified in condemning Worthy.
Wonder how that smooth southern drawl will spin this? Maybe another football analogy? Maybe this will shut him up for awhile, until they think we'll forget about it. But then that will bring another mouthpiece out front. Yuck, they're all slippery.
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Like Bill Proctor said this morning.........People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Good morning all! Neither fog, nor rain, nor cold, nor wind in Spring will keep me from loving Michigan (most days).
As Laura points out, Parkman said on the program yesterday that he took the case because he was "told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame".
Isn't this disturbing? Usually, you hear these guys state that they just KNOW their client is innocent, that everyone deserves adequate representation, etc. But NONE of Parkman's reasons were noble!
And another thing. Why is it that so many people connected to this case are tax scofflaws? Do any of you even know anyone who doesn't pay their taxes? I don't (or at least I don't know about it, anyway). But since we've been following this case, character after character enter the picture, and we find out that most of them are in arrears in their property and/or income taxes, in parking tickets, fines. etc. I've never seen anything like it! Yet they get appointed to big jobs with the City!
I remember reading this article a while back about CB: http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0502/18/D01-93887.htm
Never have I seen such a tangled mess of finances, from someone who actually held a position of responsibilty in the administration! Where do they find these people? Great point Missy55367! Anyone that is hooked up w/ KK seems to have a story.
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05-12-2008, 11:44 AM |
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Re: Who got the Biggest Raises?
Missy55367: Cheryl48: Laura56: miamia:From Detnews.com:..............and worth a pretty good laugh this morning, Way to go Foghorn,
Kilpatrick lawyer who chided Worthy owes taxes, too Parkman owes Ala. $23,600 after paying off $1M in liens in 2006. Robert Snell / The Detroit News DETROIT -- A member of Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's legal team who scolded Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy for not paying taxes owes $23,602 to the state of Alabama for unpaid income taxes, public records show.
That's only the most recent tax delinquency, though. Since 2005, lawyer James W. Parkman III has paid off more than $1 million in delinquent state and federal taxes, a figure that dwarfs the $31,000 in liens filed against Worthy.
Amazing that Parkman thought that the Detroit press wouldn't find out about his tax problems!!
After his pontification yesterday with Chuck about why he took the case (told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame) today we know the real reason. He needs the money.
After paying off the $1 million in delinquent taxes he probably thought he was justified in condemning Worthy.
Wonder how that smooth southern drawl will spin this? Maybe another football analogy? Maybe this will shut him up for awhile, until they think we'll forget about it. But then that will bring another mouthpiece out front. Yuck, they're all slippery.
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Like Bill Proctor said this morning.........People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Good morning all! Neither fog, nor rain, nor cold, nor wind in Spring will keep me from loving Michigan (most days).
As Laura points out, Parkman said on the program yesterday that he took the case because he was "told he couldn't win - loves a challenge and really LIKES Kwame".
Isn't this disturbing? Usually, you hear these guys state that they just KNOW their client is innocent, that everyone deserves adequate representation, etc. But NONE of Parkman's reasons were noble!
And another thing. Why is it that so many people connected to this case are tax scofflaws? Do any of you even know anyone who doesn't pay their taxes? I don't (or at least I don't know about it, anyway). But since we've been following this case, character after character enter the picture, and we find out that most of them are in arrears in their property and/or income taxes, in parking tickets, fines. etc. I've never seen anything like it! Yet they get appointed to big jobs with the City!
I remember reading this article a while back about CB: http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0502/18/D01-93887.htm
Never have I seen such a tangled mess of finances, from someone who actually held a position of responsibilty in the administration! Where do they find these people?
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Whew, Missy! Great job of investigative reporting! Thank you! All this stuff is coming back to haunt CB and KK.
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Did anyone see Jim Thomas this morning on the news? looked like he had lost his best friend at the sentensing of Orlewicz, thats one case he did not win
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Gene210:
THIS BIT$$ WILL BE OUT OF OFFICE SHORLT TOO, ABOUT TIME.
IF IT WAS RUNNING FOR AN UGLY CONTEST IT WOULD WIN FIRST PLACE.
LETS ALL HOPE SHE TO JOINS HER BOY IN PRISON.
This is weird question, but that's me! Why does she squint all of the time? Didn't anyone tell her how goofy she looks?
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Laura56: Gene210:IS MONICA CONYERS AS DUMB AS she LOOKS?????????????
I think I can say with some confidence, having never met her, SHE'S PROBABLY DUMBER!!
But this could be all an act, or a show, in order to position herself. I think she's dumb like a fox.
I think she is dumb and Kwame pulls her strings. Conyers is/was a strong political name in Detroit and she believes she has the power and can do anything just like thug Kwame. She is dumb!
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