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  •  07-19-2008, 4:24 PM 3215730 in reply to 3215718

    Re: No End in Sight

    A man sits down next to an attractive women at the bar

    and asks her her name . . .

     

    'My name is Carmen,' she told him.

    'That's a beautiful name,' he replied,  'Is
    it a family name?'
     
    'No,' she replied.  'I gave it to myself.  It
    reflects the things I like most in life -- cars and men.'
     
    'What's your name?' she asked..

    He said, 'B. J. Titsengolf'


  •  07-19-2008, 4:24 PM 3215731 in reply to 3215342

    Re: AT&T sucks as bad as Kwame

    Missy55367:
    taxpayer:

    Just a quick note to all of you. I won't be posting for some time. I just cancelled my internet access from AT&T. They kept trying to double my internet charges then they would say they were sorry for the "mistake" and it would never happen again, must have been a computer glitch etc.........then a couple months later the same thing would happen even though they assured me it would not happen again. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice , shame on me, screw me three times, bye bye AT&T.

    AT&T runs about as efficiently as the City of Detroit. I cancelled my phone line as well and the lil, nasty operator tried to tell me I would lose my 911 service...........hahahahahaha. I told her, I live in Detroit. I don't have 911 service. My 911 service sits locked and loaded in one of my closets.

    So, thank you all. It has been real and it has been fun but it hasn't been real fun. Take care and God Bless and don't start any rumors that Kwame's people finally caught up with me. I haven't been killed by Lorenzo Jones, I just got into a tiff with a snotty ATT&T rep.

    Be back soon under a new name..........I hope.

    Love and kisses,

    Tax

     

    NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Taxpayer, please get back up and running soon - you are a valuable member of the board and will be missed.

    I had Comcast for years, but ended up going with Wide Open West (WOW).  They're probably just as good as anyone re: cable, phone and internet, but what I am really impressed with is their internet technical support.  They are just phenomenal, and I would highly suggest them to everyone!  They're 24 hour support, and will stay on the phone to help forever, it seems, with various (but not all) connection and e-mail issues. 

    Their phone number is : 1-866-496-9669

    I agree about their tech support.  WOW is fantastic.  If they are in your area, worth a look.

  •  07-19-2008, 4:33 PM 3215744 in reply to 3215731

    Re: AT&T sucks as bad as Kwame

    Cox should have looked into '05 election, FBI says

    http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080719/COL10/807190355

  •  07-19-2008, 4:37 PM 3215749 in reply to 3215651

    Re: No End in Sight

    Missy55367:

    My God, I just wonder what Freman Hendrix must think when reading all of this.  It's likely that the live, eligible Detroit citizens who live in actual residences actually elected him as Mayor!  It was only the dead "voters", pre-marked ballots and ficticious voters residing in empty lots who put the Kwamster back in office.   

    Our politicians in Michigan should probably be brought up on public corruption charges for their derelection of duty, as it sounds like Cox and Granholm simply looked the other way.  Who knows what else they've ignored?  God help us. 

    Thank you.
  •  07-19-2008, 4:38 PM 3215751 in reply to 3215720

    Re: Pro Mayor Publicatiom

    punky1:

    keo10:
    MissD:
    I received that piece of trash in the mail today and I put it in the garbage today.  He got a lot of nerve sending that to the citizens of Detroit.  He is crazy and think he is above the law.  That is more money coming out of our tax money.  How is he allowed to keep billing us with this type of nonsense.  He didn't put the neighborhoods in the book all about the downtown and boardwalk area.  He take us for a fool.  We should all send that trash back to the city county building right back to his office.
    MissD, Great idea - return to sender - unknown at this address and put in mail box.

    Gosh, don't put unknown at this address.  They will be using your name try and vote at the next election!  LOL.

    punky1, Too funny!
  •  07-19-2008, 4:42 PM 3215756 in reply to 3215751

    Re: Pro Mayor Publicatiom

    Kilpatrick legal fund donors owe taxes

    Robert Snell and Mike Wilkinson / The Detroit News

    DETROIT -- Three of the 31 companies and individuals that donated money to Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick's legal defense fund owe more than $820,000 in state and federal taxes, public records show.

    Among the tax delinquents is the company that owns Sheraton Detroit Riverside hotel, formerly the Hotel Pontchartrain, which gave $3,000 despite owing $501,299 in various state taxes. Brian Jeffries, an investment manager from Lathrup Village, gave the mayor $10,000 and, along with his wife, owes the Internal Revenue Service $290,803 in federal income taxes, according to records filed in the Oakland County Register of Deeds office.

    The contributions could pique the interest of state and federal tax collectors if the donors are not repaying their debts or claiming they don't have enough money to pay off the unpaid taxes.

    "It's certainly a cautionary flag," said Eric Nemeth, a Novi tax lawyer and former senior trial lawyer for the IRS in Michigan. "They might wonder why all of a sudden (the donors) are making some kind of contribution like this."

    The revelation comes amid questions about other donations made to the defense fund. On Wednesday, the fund's leaders agreed to return a pair of donations totaling $4,500 made by owners of a strip club on West Eight Mile and the owner of Advanced Air Services, who said he mistakenly believed the money was to go to children's programs.

    Jeffries, the hotel owners and others helped the mayor raise $185,600 for his legal defense since April 4. All but $20,000 of that money has been spent on the mayor's vast legal team.

    Last month, the fund raised $800 after raising $126,000 during its first month.

    The following donor companies and individuals have had tax liens filed against them in recent years by the IRS or state. A lien is filed when taxes haven't been paid and give the government a legal claim to a person's or company's property. Liens serve as security or payment for the tax debt.

    • Shubh Hotel Detroit LLC: The state says owners of the former Hotel Pontchartrain owe $501,299 in state taxes. There have been two unpaid liens filed against the company since October 2006 for sales, use and convention facilities taxes, according to the Wayne County Register of Deeds office.

    The hotel has had a string of financial woes since undergoing renovations. Last year, 15 contractors filed liens against the property, claiming they were owed $557,000 for helping renovate the hotel, according to county records.

    "Really, they owe everybody and their brother under the sun and they're paying Kwame? Huh," said Bill Hemphill of Lincoln Fire Protection, a South Rockwood-based company that worked on the hotel's renovation but was owed about $36,000. "Nothing surprises me."

    Hotel lawyer Bruce Sucher said renovations to the hotel forced the company to pay some bills and delay paying others. The hotel owners contributed to Kilpatrick's defense fund to thank him for his support of tourism, Sucher said, noting the mayor attended the hotel's grand opening last winter.

    "There's nothing tied to that contribution whatsoever," he said.

    The owners have no city contracts, he added.

    Most of the state taxes have been paid, Sucher said, and he is negotiating with state officials over potential penalties.

    As for his own $50,000 lien against the hotel for nonpayment of legal bills, Sucher said he is being paid and the lien was a formality.

    "We're not enforcing the lien," he said.

    • The IRS has filed liens totaling $290,803 against Jeffries and his wife, according to the Oakland County Register of Deeds office. According to the liens, the couple owe income taxes for 2002-05.

    Jeffries, president and chief executive officer of Ambassador Capital Management, did not return calls and an e-mail seeking comment.

    • Medici Homes Inc., a Clinton Township development company, gave Kilpatrick $50,000. The IRS filed a $28,468 lien against the company's president, Salvatore A. Cavaliere, and Laura Cavaliere in July 2001 for unpaid income taxes, according to the Macomb County Register of Deeds office.

    On Friday, there was no record that the tax debt had been paid off and Cavaliere could not be reached for comment.

    Donors bidding on city land

    Meanwhile, two of Kilpatrick's legal defense donors have deals to buy land pending before the Detroit City Council.

    Jerome Morgan, who heads Morgan Development, wants to buy a piece of vacant city land near East Jefferson and Dickerson for about $1.4 million. And banker Donald Davis has teamed up with another developer in a bid to buy a section of Tolan Park, at 701 Mack, for $900,000, although the Detroit Medical Center also has bid on the property.

    City officials are still negotiating both land sales.

    Detroit News Staff Writer Christine MacDonald contributed to this report. You can reach Robert Snell at (313) 222-2028 or rsnell@detnews.com.

  •  07-19-2008, 7:25 PM 3216109 in reply to 3003296

    Re: Council Moves to Oust Mayor

    What is honorable about him? Does he pay you to dance for him?
  •  07-19-2008, 7:40 PM 3216149 in reply to 3003307

    Re: Council Moves to Oust Mayor

    What makes him honorable?  Did you dance for him. and he tipped well?
  •  07-19-2008, 8:26 PM 3216279 in reply to 3216149

    Don't let Detroit die without a fight

    From the News:

    Saturday, July 19, 2008

    Nolan Finley

    Don't let Detroit die without a fight

    A city must be awfully hard to kill. How else do you explain that Detroit is still breathing?

    Detroit is down with a fatal case of chaos. The structure of government has dissolved, with every public institution in dysfunction and disarray. Last week's shouting match between City Council members and mayoral appointees looked a lot like anarchy.

    And it was brought on by public officials who are all about serving themselves, rather than their people.

    Kwame Kilpatrick once promised to leave a legacy as the boy wonder who gave Detroit back its dream. Now, his stubborn refusal to step aside despite facing perjury

    In other places, the City Council might be counted on to offer stability when a mayor stumbles. But this is Detroit, and the Detroit City Council on its best day barely rises above inept.

    Instead of putting out the fire, the council poured on fuel by getting itself entangled in a federal bribery probe. The council can't very well yank the mayor for corruption when some of its members may be heading to the courthouse with him.

    While City Hall is burning, no one seems to notice that the Detroit school board is at war with its newly hired superintendent. The school district has mismanaged its finances so thoroughly that it is just a bounced check or two away from insolvency.

    Try packaging all that into a two-minute elevator pitch to sell Detroit to investors, job creators or new residents.

    Can Detroit be cured? Maybe. But you're kidding yourself if you think a return to health will require anything short of a miracle.

    The prescribed miracle is for Detroiters to get mad as hell and declare they're not going to take it anymore.

    But instead, Detroiters are sitting on the rooftops like the pitiful Katrina victims waiting for a rescue boat to float by.

    That boat's not coming.

    If Detroit survives Hurricane Kwame, it only will be because its residents decided to step up and save themselves.

    Detroiters need to march down to City Hall and drag the rascals out. It's maddening that six months into this unnatural disaster there's still no credible recall drive underway to get rid of the mayor quickly and cleanly.

    Start one today. And leave spaces open on the petition to add any council member whose name shows up on a federal indictment.

    You're not helpless Detroit. And you don't have to be a victim. Get angry. Get loud.

    Shout down the parasitic preachers who have a pocketbook stake in protecting their political partners.

    Wave off the excuse makers who urge you to let the legal process play itself out. You may be six feet under by then.

    This is your city. You can't wait for the business community to do something. It's got no vote. You can't wait for Gov. Jennifer Granholm to do something. She's got no spine.

    As a city, you've got to lift yourself out of your deathbed.

    Come on, Detroit, don't die without a fight.

    Nolan Finley is editorial page editor of The News

  •  07-19-2008, 9:34 PM 3216414 in reply to 3215205

    Re: Pro Mayor Publicatiom

    keo10:
    RayStar:
    I like watching it tumble also.  I think this garbage was printed to taint the jury.  OOPS it did not work with me.  I refused to look at it.
    You are probably right about that they are trying to cast doubt on if the thug kk is guilty or not.

    Good point.  I never looked at it this way. 

  •  07-19-2008, 9:34 PM 3216415 in reply to 3215205

    Re: Pro Mayor Publicatiom

    keo10:
    RayStar:
    I like watching it tumble also.  I think this garbage was printed to taint the jury.  OOPS it did not work with me.  I refused to look at it.
    You are probably right about that they are trying to cast doubt on if the thug kk is guilty or not.

    Good point.  I never looked at it this way. 

  •  07-19-2008, 9:41 PM 3216423 in reply to 3216279

    Re: Don't let Detroit die without a fight

    Cheryl48:

    From the News:

    Saturday, July 19, 2008

    Nolan Finley

    Don't let Detroit die without a fight

    A city must be awfully hard to kill. How else do you explain that Detroit is still breathing?

    Detroit is down with a fatal case of chaos. The structure of government has dissolved, with every public institution in dysfunction and disarray. Last week's shouting match between City Council members and mayoral appointees looked a lot like anarchy.

    And it was brought on by public officials who are all about serving themselves, rather than their people.

    Kwame Kilpatrick once promised to leave a legacy as the boy wonder who gave Detroit back its dream. Now, his stubborn refusal to step aside despite facing perjury

    In other places, the City Council might be counted on to offer stability when a mayor stumbles. But this is Detroit, and the Detroit City Council on its best day barely rises above inept.

    Instead of putting out the fire, the council poured on fuel by getting itself entangled in a federal bribery probe. The council can't very well yank the mayor for corruption when some of its members may be heading to the courthouse with him.

    While City Hall is burning, no one seems to notice that the Detroit school board is at war with its newly hired superintendent. The school district has mismanaged its finances so thoroughly that it is just a bounced check or two away from insolvency.

    Try packaging all that into a two-minute elevator pitch to sell Detroit to investors, job creators or new residents.

    Can Detroit be cured? Maybe. But you're kidding yourself if you think a return to health will require anything short of a miracle.

    The prescribed miracle is for Detroiters to get mad as hell and declare they're not going to take it anymore.

    But instead, Detroiters are sitting on the rooftops like the pitiful Katrina victims waiting for a rescue boat to float by.

    That boat's not coming.

    If Detroit survives Hurricane Kwame, it only will be because its residents decided to step up and save themselves.

    Detroiters need to march down to City Hall and drag the rascals out. It's maddening that six months into this unnatural disaster there's still no credible recall drive underway to get rid of the mayor quickly and cleanly.

    Start one today. And leave spaces open on the petition to add any council member whose name shows up on a federal indictment.

    You're not helpless Detroit. And you don't have to be a victim. Get angry. Get loud.

    Shout down the parasitic preachers who have a pocketbook stake in protecting their political partners.

    Wave off the excuse makers who urge you to let the legal process play itself out. You may be six feet under by then.

    This is your city. You can't wait for the business community to do something. It's got no vote. You can't wait for Gov. Jennifer Granholm to do something. She's got no spine.

    As a city, you've got to lift yourself out of your deathbed.

    Come on, Detroit, don't die without a fight.

    Nolan Finley is editorial page editor of The News

    Cheryl thanks.....never think of checking the Detroit News but you have brought some interesting articles to us from them :)

  •  07-19-2008, 10:57 PM 3216516 in reply to 3215723

    Re: AT&T sucks as bad as Kwame

    Tushana:
    just amazed:
    keo10:
    taxpayer:

    Just a quick note to all of you. I won't be posting for some time. I just cancelled my internet access from AT&T. They kept trying to double my internet charges then they would say they were sorry for the "mistake" and it would never happen again, must have been a computer glitch etc.........then a couple months later the same thing would happen even though they assured me it would not happen again. Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice , shame on me, screw me three times, bye bye AT&T.

    AT&T runs about as efficiently as the City of Detroit. I cancelled my phone line as well and the lil, nasty operator tried to tell me I would lose my 911 service...........hahahahahaha. I told her, I live in Detroit. I don't have 911 service. My 911 service sits locked and loaded in one of my closets.

    So, thank you all. It has been real and it has been fun but it hasn't been real fun. Take care and God Bless and don't start any rumors that Kwame's people finally caught up with me. I haven't been killed by Lorenzo Jones, I just got into a tiff with a snotty ATT&T rep.

    Be back soon under a new name..........I hope.

    Love and kisses,

    Tax

    Tax, I am going to miss you - Hope you come back soon - I have Comcast and never have had any trouble - I would recommend Comcast to you if you have that option.  Bye for now.

    Tax, You will certainly be missed. 

    The same thing happened to me.  I had att since the 70's with my internet for over 10 years and my cellphone.  Dropped all of them, there was no customer loyalty.  I  have cavalier now, phone and internet $49.99 a month and this is not an inroductory price ($50 cheaper than att).  I have had it since March.  Have not had any problems.  Just to let you know. 

    Well guys hope we don't lose anymore people.  Laura is certainly missed as well as Gene.  And quite a few others.  Maybe some will come back when the weather changes and the trial is going on.

    Taxie:  :)  Hurry back.  Hope no one jumps in with a new name pretending they are you...ooops.  You will be missed.  take care of business and again HURRY BACK :)

    Tax, Ditto for me, I have WOW, Had Comcast GAGG!!! ATT, deceptive, now WOW is the best, never a Internet problem, or cable. if there is one they come out pretty quick. The one problem I was told about re 911 calls on cable fiber optics is that sometime the phone service can be problematic due to all the use now, Internet, phone, cable TV on the same line. and if you life (like mine does) depends on 911 service I stayed with a dedicated telephone hard line. Another suggestion is to call

    State Web Sites  Just Google MPSC


    Michigan Public Service Commission, and find the Telephone area. for AT7T. It can be hard lot of information here.

    Most people don't even know about it but when you have A utility problem they are the consumer watchdogs, They will fix your problems. I have used them several times , The hate it when big companies screw the little people.


    Kathy1007
  •  07-19-2008, 11:16 PM 3216560 in reply to 3216516

    re: CK , soon to be x wife???

    KK 's wife is so mad at him right now, living in Florida. Maybe she will be the one to roll over on him and I sure don't mean in bed. She could blow him out of the water and at least hopefully teach her children that there is a time in life that no matter how painful and embarrassing you have to tell the truth, no matter who gets hurt. Those kids will become just like their thug dad if someone doesn't try and set some rules and consequences for their future behavior. I just wonder , being his wife CAN she testify in court, of if divorced can she testify. Hopefully Laura will be able to return soon  to help answer our questions. Remember to keep her  (Laura)in your thoughts and prayers.


    Kathy1007
  •  07-19-2008, 11:26 PM 3216577 in reply to 3216560

    Off topic, but funny (?)

    Don't anyone yell at me, please, but I know at least a few of you are not huge Obama fans.  Anyway, on other boards I've been participating in discussions as to how the MSM (mainstream media) is totally in the tank for Obama.  And the three network anchors are actually going overseas, on his trip to the Middle East and to Europe, to cover his every move ( I am not making this up).

    So here is the first headline, (thanks to CBS News), we've seen from the trip:

    "Solidiers Overjoyed to Meet Obama in Kuwait"

    Seriously, have any of you EVER heard of anyone who was "overjoyed" to meet any politician?  Isn't this just totally unbelievable? 

    Sorry to go off topic; I just really thought this was hysterical, and just goes to show how the media can spin a story any way it wants to.   

     

    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/barack.obama.kuwait.2.775213.html

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