Laura56:

Laura56:

RayStar:

Does anyone know if any congressman/woman from the state of MI is unable to carry out their term, does their spouse, if they are married, automatically take over?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Depends on the seat. Lt. Gov. for Gov. Some will be appointed by the Govenor (depending on timetable for elections), some elections are held immediately.

You're referencing J. Conyers seat? New election. It's a federal seat - House of Representatives, our Governor would not get involved, per se.

NO NO I said anyone. LOL  It was a thought.  I really don't know what happens if  in an event like this.  Boy, can anyone just picture Monica call members of Congress bad names?   I mean can't one be instutionalized to protect them from themselves.  LOL LOL   I'll stop.  It's Friday.

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RayStar

RayStar:

Laura56:

Laura56:

RayStar:

Does anyone know if any congressman/woman from the state of MI is unable to carry out their term, does their spouse, if they are married, automatically take over?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Depends on the seat. Lt. Gov. for Gov. Some will be appointed by the Govenor (depending on timetable for elections), some elections are held immediately.

You're referencing J. Conyers seat? New election. It's a federal seat - House of Representatives, our Governor would not get involved, per se.

NO NO I said anyone. LOL  It was a thought.  I really don't know what happens if  in an event like this.  Boy, can anyone just picture Monica call members of Congress bad names?   I mean can't one be instutionalized to protect them from themselves.  LOL LOL   I'll stop.  It's Friday.

Anywhere else, but Detroit City Council, that member would be censured. Roberts Rules and all the stuff.

We can certainly expect to hear the karmanos name come up in the text messages . . . What happened karmanos did they film your participation in the ORGY unbeknownst to you, and you just found out? Of course they did, that's what the ORGY was all about; LEVERAGE -- to get people to do what they wanted them to do -- through blackmail. That's why they invited the Southfield police chief.

This idiot fool had the plan down from day one, mommy and daddy schooled him, and told him exactly what to do – have an ORGY and film it, then they can control everybody and the stupid gangster family rules forever . . . but here comes the X Factor Carlita with bat in tow. Now the plan is just a wee bit messed up. These are STUPID PEOPLE!

And incidentally, based on kwame’s desperation, I would not be surprised to hear that he got a gun and started shooting people – this boy is a sociopath and has always been one. Look at how much weight he has lost – it’s because he is scared out of his wits, not to mention the fact that his irritable bowel syndrome is literally kicking his ass, isn’t that right kwame? It won’t be long before you’re going to need to keep some Depends (adult diapers) with you.

And good for you.

Laura56:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

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And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

Looks like MotownJohnnie said it all. Pox on Karmanos.

Willing to bet, the Karmanos name will surface in the text messages. Interesting coincidence after yesterday's electronic information "policy change", which is legally null and void. These people are complete idiots, and now they’re complete and desperate idiots.

Definitely in panic mode. Their mouths are moving much faster than their brains, without thinking about long term consequences of them. But then, when did any of them worry about consequences?

Makes me wonder though, what's going on in the background that is setting this off? Something, something big. Unless it's starting to become real - the shock has worn off.

Obviously, whatever is going on in the background it is so devastating that no one can keep a level head--they have ALL imploded. Have you noticed that kwame's attorneys cannot hold their heads up, or maintain eye contact these days?

Laura56:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

*******************************

And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

Looks like MotownJohnnie said it all. Pox on Karmanos.

Willing to bet, the Karmanos name will surface in the text messages. Interesting coincidence after yesterday's electronic information "policy change", which is legally null and void. These people are complete idiots, and now they’re complete and desperate idiots.

Definitely in panic mode. Their mouths are moving much faster than their brains, without thinking about long term consequences of them. But then, when did any of them worry about consequences?

Makes me wonder though, what's going on in the background that is setting this off? Something, something big. Unless it's starting to become real - the shock has worn off.

Beatty' minister said something would be happening soon.  Can hardly wait for the next brick to fall.....

Nice big red letters, who had Tamara Greene and Lana Stempian and Chuck Rutherford Murdered?????? I bet we all know, maybe that big bad bozo from the hip hop mansion.

Gene210:

Nice big red letters, who had Tamara Greene and Lana Stempian and Chuck Rutherford Murdered?????? I bet we all know, maybe that big bad bozo from the hip hop mansion.

Gene, you have come along way since you started posting - Pretty red color and a new font!   Very nice...Can you make it a little smaller it would be easier to read..:)

meemeemy:

We can certainly expect to hear the karmanos name come up in the text messages . . . What happened karmanos did they film your participation in the ORGY unbeknownst to you, and you just found out? Of course they did, that's what the ORGY was all about; LEVERAGE -- to get people to do what they wanted them to do -- through blackmail. That's why they invited the Southfield police chief.

This idiot fool had the plan down from day one, mommy and daddy schooled him, and told him exactly what to do – have an ORGY and film it, then they can control everybody and the stupid gangster family rules forever . . . but here comes the X Factor Carlita with bat in tow. Now the plan is just a wee bit messed up. These are STUPID PEOPLE!

And incidentally, based on kwame’s desperation, I would not be surprised to hear that he got a gun and started shooting people – this boy is a sociopath and has always been one. Look at how much weight he has lost – it’s because he is scared out of his wits, not to mention the fact that his irritable bowel syndrome is literally kicking his ass, isn’t that right kwame? It won’t be long before you’re going to need to keep some Depends (adult diapers) with you.

And good for you.

The thug wouldn't shoot anyone, he hides behind women's skirts.

magenta:

Several comments on this forum seem to imply that Detroit is lacking due to the fact that it is predominately black.  I would like to remind those with this train of thought that many thriving, leading cities are also predominately black; Atlanta, Georgia is a prime example. 

 

Living and flying all over the world (as a flight attendant) I noticed immediately not only the differences at the local Detroit level when it comes to government, but also most extensively at the Federal Level.  I remember thinking it was as if Detroit had been black-balled.  Like a stepchild that wasn’t quite fully welcomed to the family.

 

Everything from Federal City Improvement Grants, the number of liquor stores, pawn shops and strip clubs, to the quality of the television programming or food trucked here, is vastly different from other states.  Even products ordered nationally or internationally seem to come from a special bin (crushed boxes, returned items, etc.) marked Detroit.

 

I remember while on layover asking a group of black young people wearing orange vest  that were sweeping the streets in Atlanta if they were part of a summer job program, they looked at me strangely and replied no, this is our job, our streets are cleaned everyday, this is a city job.

 

My mind immediately flashed to the volunteer call for the residents in Detroit (whose taxes are higher by the way) to hit the streets and pick up their own garbage.  After a little digging I also noted that most of their tax payer money was being utilized on public services not law suits, which in Detroit the law suits as a whole are staggering, I have yet to find one public document that list them all in one place.  It is all very hush, hush and hard to find.

 

I must admit when asked where I am from words like, somewhere, nowhere, I don't remember,  flood my mind and try to come out of my mouth, yet I stick out my chest and with a big smile say DDDDDDetroit!

 

Just got home and am catching up here, so if this has been replied to, forgive me.

First, if Detroit is treated like a stepchild (or for that matter Michigan) I would say that has to do with leadership.  Unless it is election time, how often do Levin, Stabanow or the other Levin go to
Detroit (or Michigan) to see what is needed?  How much "pork" do they bring home?  Sen. Byrd in West Virginia gets reelected continually because he brings home pork.  Their roads are beautiful in West Virginia.  In fact, in every state I have been to, the roads are better than ours.  And in other states, congress people who do not produce for their states do not get reelected adnauseum.  We  (in the suburbs) are just as foolish in that regard as Detroiters.  Jennifer got elected and reelected even after she failed as attorney general.  Remember Ricky Holland?  That was under her watch.

 

As far as volunteers cleaning the streets.  No young people would be allowed to take away Union jobs.  I am quite sure there are people at this moment being paid to be street cleaners.  The fact that they don't do it just means they don't do it.  They are getting paid.

If you really want to see how a city in Michigan  is able to do better for themselves, drive to Grand Rapids.  I went there for the first time about a year ago.  Even the roads are better.  I have no idea how they do it, but the difference between Birmingham and Grand Rapids really shocked me.

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

*******************************

And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

 

 

 

Well, we no longer have to worry about what would Kwame do if he stepped down as Mayor.  Sound like Compuware would hire him in a minute!

 

 

duchess:

magenta:

Several comments on this forum seem to imply that Detroit is lacking due to the fact that it is predominately black.  I would like to remind those with this train of thought that many thriving, leading cities are also predominately black; Atlanta, Georgia is a prime example. 

 

Living and flying all over the world (as a flight attendant) I noticed immediately not only the differences at the local Detroit level when it comes to government, but also most extensively at the Federal Level.  I remember thinking it was as if Detroit had been black-balled.  Like a stepchild that wasn’t quite fully welcomed to the family.

 

Everything from Federal City Improvement Grants, the number of liquor stores, pawn shops and strip clubs, to the quality of the television programming or food trucked here, is vastly different from other states.  Even products ordered nationally or internationally seem to come from a special bin (crushed boxes, returned items, etc.) marked Detroit.

 

I remember while on layover asking a group of black young people wearing orange vest  that were sweeping the streets in Atlanta if they were part of a summer job program, they looked at me strangely and replied no, this is our job, our streets are cleaned everyday, this is a city job.

 

My mind immediately flashed to the volunteer call for the residents in Detroit (whose taxes are higher by the way) to hit the streets and pick up their own garbage.  After a little digging I also noted that most of their tax payer money was being utilized on public services not law suits, which in Detroit the law suits as a whole are staggering, I have yet to find one public document that list them all in one place.  It is all very hush, hush and hard to find.

 

I must admit when asked where I am from words like, somewhere, nowhere, I don't remember,  flood my mind and try to come out of my mouth, yet I stick out my chest and with a big smile say DDDDDDetroit!

 

Just got home and am catching up here, so if this has been replied to, forgive me.

First, if Detroit is treated like a stepchild (or for that matter Michigan) I would say that has to do with leadership.  Unless it is election time, how often do Levin, Stabanow or the other Levin go to
Detroit (or Michigan) to see what is needed?  How much "pork" do they bring home?  Sen. Byrd in West Virginia gets reelected continually because he brings home pork.  Their roads are beautiful in West Virginia.  In fact, in every state I have been to, the roads are better than ours.  And in other states, congress people who do not produce for their states do not get reelected adnauseum.  We  (in the suburbs) are just as foolish in that regard as Detroiters.  Jennifer got elected and reelected even after she failed as attorney general.  Remember Ricky Holland?  That was under her watch.

 

As far as volunteers cleaning the streets.  No young people would be allowed to take away Union jobs.  I am quite sure there are people at this moment being paid to be street cleaners.  The fact that they don't do it just means they don't do it.  They are getting paid.

If you really want to see how a city in Michigan  is able to do better for themselves, drive to Grand Rapids.  I went there for the first time about a year ago.  Even the roads are better.  I have no idea how they do it, but the difference between Birmingham and Grand Rapids really shocked me.

I agree..... I wish someone would show Detroit the way, I would love to be able to describe Detroit as clean,  beautiful and safe at least by the time my children are grown up.

duchess:

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

*******************************

And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

 

 

 

Well, we no longer have to worry about what would Kwame do if he stepped down as Mayor.  Sound like Compuware would hire him in a minute!

 

 

**************************

Sadly (on my part) I think you're right, since Karmanos thing KK's the best  we have.

I just keep shaking my head from side to side...........

keo10:

Gene210:

Nice big red letters, who had Tamara Greene and Lana Stempian and Chuck Rutherford Murdered?????? I bet we all know, maybe that big bad bozo from the hip hop mansion.

Gene, you have come along way since you started posting - Pretty red color and a new font!   Very nice...Can you make it a little smaller it would be easier to

 

 

Gene,

Supposedly Laura Stampian worked for the city of Detroit in the Freedom of Information Dept. 

 

read..:)

But he's at the point where he realizes there are no more skirts to hide under. He is desperate, and has to blame someone.

keo10:

meemeemy:

We can certainly expect to hear the karmanos name come up in the text messages . . . What happened karmanos did they film your participation in the ORGY unbeknownst to you, and you just found out? Of course they did, that's what the ORGY was all about; LEVERAGE -- to get people to do what they wanted them to do -- through blackmail. That's why they invited the Southfield police chief.

This idiot fool had the plan down from day one, mommy and daddy schooled him, and told him exactly what to do – have an ORGY and film it, then they can control everybody and the stupid gangster family rules forever . . . but here comes the X Factor Carlita with bat in tow. Now the plan is just a wee bit messed up. These are STUPID PEOPLE!

And incidentally, based on kwame’s desperation, I would not be surprised to hear that he got a gun and started shooting people – this boy is a sociopath and has always been one. Look at how much weight he has lost – it’s because he is scared out of his wits, not to mention the fact that his irritable bowel syndrome is literally kicking his ass, isn’t that right kwame? It won’t be long before you’re going to need to keep some Depends (adult diapers) with you.

And good for you.

The thug wouldn't shoot anyone, he hides behind women's skirts.

But he's reached the point where he realizes there are no more skirts to hide under. He is DESPARATE and has to blame someone.