Missy55367:

Kathy, just another thing.  There is an "Urban Dictionary" you can go to to look up such things.  Usually, when I hear a term with which I am unfamiliar, I go there and find it immediately!

Here is "dis":

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dis

CAUTION:  The language at that site is often very vulgar!

Way to cool thanks, this will really help as i often dont know. Like I was talking with someone from this board once,they are Baptist and I am Catholic and I had NO idea that Baptist didn't use "Holy Water" at church.I was very surprised I thought HolY Water was a religious requirement! How much we have to learn about each other.  .

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Kathy1007

Kathy 1007:

Missy55367:

Kathy, just another thing.  There is an "Urban Dictionary" you can go to to look up such things.  Usually, when I hear a term with which I am unfamiliar, I go there and find it immediately!

Here is "dis":

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dis

CAUTION:  The language at that site is often very vulgar!

Way to cool thanks, this will really help as i often dont know. Like I was talking with someone from this board once,they are Baptist and I am Catholic and I had NO idea that Baptist didn't use "Holy Water" at church.I was very surprised I thought HolY Water was a religious requirement! How much we have to learn about each other.  .

 

Kathy, I don't think the Urban Dictionary could help you with THOSE types of questions.

I am a former Catholic and now just attend Bible churches, so I might be able to answer some of those questions.  When I first left the Catholic faith, I had a lot of questions about the Protestant side of Christianity, but my cousins were around to help me out.  

God Bless you, and have a good night!

Watson calls Kilpatrick's move to strip council duties 'outrageous'

By NAOMI R. PATTON • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • May 16, 2008

Instead, Planning and Development Director Douglass Diggs told the council today it “exceeds its authority” under the 1997 city charter by distributing block grant funds. If the mayor’s office distributed the grants, the council would give the allocations final approval.

Council members blasted the administration for the move, questioning the administration’s legal standing to distribute the federal grants typically given to nonprofits which provide services to Detroit residents.

“This is outrageous, ridiculous, patently absurd . . . a low down evil attempt to strip council of power,” said Councilwoman JoAnn Watson.

Cheryl48:

Watson calls Kilpatrick's move to strip council duties 'outrageous'

By NAOMI R. PATTON • FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER • May 16, 2008

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick wants his office to take over the city’s distribution of federal grants, a practice that has been a function of the Detroit City Council for decades.

Administration officials insist their effort to allocate funding from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Community Development Block Grant and Neighborhood Opportunity Fund to local programs and projects is not retaliation against the council for it’s recent votes to remove their mayor from office, and amend the city charter to reduce the mayor’s power to hire and fire the city’s top lawyer.

Instead, Planning and Development Director Douglass Diggs told the council today it “exceeds its authority” under the 1997 city charter by distributing block grant funds. If the mayor’s office distributed the grants, the council would give the allocations final approval.

Council members blasted the administration for the move, questioning the administration’s legal standing to distribute the federal grants typically given to nonprofits which provide services to Detroit residents.

“This is outrageous, ridiculous, patently absurd . . . a low down evil attempt to strip council of power,” said Councilwoman JoAnn Watson.

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Here is a quote from the comments on this article:

See what tomorrow brings.......

Missy55367:

We Can Help,

Do you really know that the KK legal team is panicking, or are you just taking a guess? 

Pure speculation I would think

Missy55367:

We Can Help,

Do you really know that the KK legal team is panicking, or are you just taking a guess? 

Pure speculation I would think

meemeemy:

BOYCOTT ALL THE BUSINESSES IN THE COMPUWARE BUILDING, and let his corporate peers deal with him.

Kinkos, Hard Rock, Border's Books, all of them corporate and local.

 

Hope you all don't mind me bringing this forward as I'm trying to catch up. I have said this for months about boycotting Detroit. There is a lot in Detroit I have wanted to do, and still want to do this summer. BUT I WON'T SPEND ONE PENNY IN DETROIT, until the Manoogian and the City Clowncill is cleaned up. I am holding out on this one, be it a game, festival, or whatever I miss.

WeCanHelp:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

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And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

Looks like MotownJohnnie said it all. Pox on Karmanos.

Willing to bet, the Karmanos name will surface in the text messages. Interesting coincidence after yesterday's electronic information "policy change", which is legally null and void. These people are complete idiots, and now they’re complete and desperate idiots.

Definitely in panic mode. Their mouths are moving much faster than their brains, without thinking about long term consequences of them. But then, when did any of them worry about consequences?

Makes me wonder though, what's going on in the background that is setting this off? Something, something big. Unless it's starting to become real - the shock has worn off.

Obviously, whatever is going on in the background it is so devastating that no one can keep a level head--they have ALL imploded. Have you noticed that kwame's attorneys cannot hold their heads up, or maintain eye contact these days?

The Legal team has received the Prosecution's discovery CD's. They are all panicking! Probably something really obvious like "Now that we've KILLED TAMARA GREENN......."  I'm sure there is enough to bring the Feds in. KYM did say she passed a few things up to the FEDS. Contract fixing.... murder... the usual thug activities. That's why everyone is acting desperate! NO DEALS FOR CB or KK! Why should stepping down be punishment enough? When will we pass a law that says innocent till proven guilty but during our wonderful legal systems 27 year process KK could retire in office after completing his 12 full terms if left up to the voters of Detroit. Where is the RECALL? Oh Yeah its one of the Team Kilpatrick members that got their recall through. Expect nothing to become of that!!!!

The only ones who should be spared are Watson, Kenyatta, Jones both Cockeril's and Dave Bing. Eliminate the entire regime starting with MAMA Kilpatrick. Prosecute everyone involved to the fullest extent.

PS Why is anyone concerned with KK changing policy? The policy in effect at the time of infraction should apply correct? Laura? Please advise.  

WeCanHelp - The defense received, and are continuing to receive, the Prosecutors evidence and I doubt that they have gotten through all 200,000+ pages yet to discover the magnitude of the evidence for the charges, or possible future charges, against Kwame.

Ms. Worthy indicated that she spoke to the U.S. Attorney. What they spoke about is pure speculation. If you are referring a possible murder charge due to the rumor - pure hearsay - of Tamara Greene as a federal charge, it would NOT be. Murder, under the Greene circumstance, is a State charge. There are very few Federal murder statutes.

I believe that the Fed's are looking into many things, least of all the "contract fixing" as you said. They will file charges, if any, when they feel it's appropriate. It will be done before the statue of limitations expire. That is the only timetable that must be followed.

You suggested that if Kwame stepped down that would be agreeable in a "deal." I can say, with some confidence, that would NEVER occur. One does not tie into another. There are guidelines for sentencing, along with "deal" making. For a Judge to approve a "deal" certain requirements must be met. A plea (deal) is not just an agreement between the prosecutor and defendant. It must come under judicial review and approval. The Judge can throw any plea agreement out.

Also when a plea agreement is finalized the defendant must proclaim his/her guilt in open court and explain in detail what and how was done. At that point the defendant is found guilty. If Kwame took a plea he would admit to his guilt and therefore loose his position as Mayor anyway.

The law that you referred to "innocent until proven guilty" is the Constitution and the entire basis of our Justice System. To refer to it in such a flippant manner is quite disrespectful. The process of "bringing justice" in regard to Kwame and Beatty will probably take a total of 10 months, without appeals. This is a large case, in respect to the evidence and witness list. Hardly 27 years, with 12 full terms (which would equal 48 years) a gross exaggeration.

As for the electronic communication policy I believe I answered that earlier. Indtytf also answered your question.

RayStar:

lc345:

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Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick wants his office to take over the city’s distribution of federal grants, a practice that has been a function of the Detroit City Council for decades.

Thanks for this post. I agree it is time to write the Governor.

 

Maybe this is a ploy.  How could he possibly be issuing all of these "new proclamations,  by order of the King" and yet be in his right mind?  A normal person, having been charged with felonies and having his corrupt form of government exposed more and more on a daily basis, would be at least contrite, right?  So, I think this bravado is a ploy.  Maybe they think (know) that this will go to trial, and their best bet is to have Kwame declared insane!  Then they will send him to a mental instituion, where he will come back cured!

 

These big bold letters are nice, striking to the eye. Does anyone on this web site support a liar cheat a thieve a MURDERER, well maybe they are on the wrong web site.

Gene210:

These big bold letters are nice, striking to the eye. Does anyone on this web site support a liar cheat a thieve a MURDERER, well maybe they are on the wrong web site.

Good morning Gene!! You are certainly making a point with your letters!! It's obvious who supports Kwame on this web site, it's as transparent as a window! Have a great day and enjoy the smiling sun.

tantra:

Tushana:

tantra:

I am thinking Gene had Lana Stempien, Chick Rutherford and Tamara Greene killed. I think Gene, and his massive knowledge, rational and education are just way too much for the FBI.

A long way? A monkey could be trained in less time to change the font and color for the love of God.

I asked, politely for the 68pt font, BOLD, and red to not be used, because it hurt my eyes. So, I guess this is Old Gene's way of saying f u.

And you people encourage him. So much for mature adults posting on a message board. I have ignored it for days, and none of you have a problem with Gene being so obviously, obnoxious with intent so... I am done ignore his ignorance.

Too bad Old Gene was't driving westbound on 94 this afternoon... could have eased the drain on the Big 3 welfare system. It is encouraging that at least he has a job that matches his intellect, wouldn't want him around other humans. Mowing grass is probably pushing his intellect as it is.

Use as big of a font as you want Gene. No doubt it is in response to your "Napolean Complex".

 

Tantra:

Making a reference to the accident in the manner you referenced it is an example of an individual who lacks human compassion. 

Tushana

You are absolutely correct Tushana... I have no compassion for ignorance, specifically, willful ignorance. Gene has propelled this. Gene CHOSE to continue, and pollute this board with his willful disregard, and redundant, uninformed words. Keep dishing for him. I really could careless who likes it, who doesn't. I stopped responding to Gene and obviously, Gene missed it because he has gone above and beyond trying to get a response from me. So now, he's got it.

Frankly, Gene offers nothing to my world. Maybe if he cut my grass, I would feel differently. Since he doesn't, and since he has gone out of his way to make certain that we all know that he is a bigot, and a racist, and blames everyone but himself for his place in the world, he is useless to me. He is a drain on the system and the fewer of them, the better.

I don't care if you all don't like it, I am not going anywhere, and I am not going to stop this time. It didn't work last time, so why should I?

I have as much right to my opinion, just because I don't agree with everyone doesn't make me wrong. How interesting is it that this forum seems to attack anyone that doesn't agree with them? I don't agree with half the people that post... doesn't mean that they are wrong and I am right. I never want my world to consist of only people that agree with my every thought... how stagnant. Maybe that's the problem.

 

Tantrum

Normally I don't respond to you, but I will make an exception in this case.

Quite often you say things to the effect "You don't know me.  You don't know anything about me, etc."  So in this case, I say right back at ya.

Where do you get off assuming you know everything-or anything-about Gene????Also about assuming anything about a person based on what they do for a living?????How shallow are you????

My parents are both dead, but some of my fondest memories of my father are when people assumed he was either the gardner, a bum, or an ignorant immigrant.  He was none of those things, but due to the fact that he enjoyed gardening and was an immigrant, sometimes the mistake was understandable.  A very funny story was that one day a neighbor we did not know stopped to ask how much he charged to keep the yard up so nicely.  She wanted to hire him!  Instead of getting offended, he said he did not charge the lady of the house, as they had a special relationship-she let him sleep with her.  The neighbor drove off appalled.

The point, Tantrum, is don't judge.  Had my father really been the gardner,  I would have loved him no less, nor been less proud of him. 

Karmanos showed great disrespect to our area yesterday.  Think of all the kids in the area who may think that if they know certain people, they can go on in life committing crime, lying, cheating, etc. because all will be forgiven.  And as was indicated in another post yesterday (sorry I can't check now; gotta leave soon), how must the Compuware employees feel, to see how their company's leader devalues the concepts of honesty and integrity?  If I worked there, I'd be as demoralized as hell!

Further, these comments will embolden KK to stick around FOREVER!!!  There is no way he'd consider stepping down in any case with such a prominent business leader lending him support. 

All this, while the city and state sink deeper into an economic abyss.

Laura56:

WeCanHelp:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

meemeemy:

Laura56:

Cheryl48:

Fron the Freep:

Karmanos: Kilpatrick should not resign

By KATHERINE YUNG • FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER • May 16, 2008

 

Detroit business leader Peter Karmanos Jr. said today that he does not think Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick should resign.

 

 

“He certainly should not resign because he’s the best we have,” the chairman and chief executive of Compuware Corp. told the Free Press during a company celebration this morning in downtown Detroit’s Campus Martius.

 

Karmanos declined to comment further. Karmanos agreed to move his company headquarters downtown in 1999, before Kilpatrick took office, and the new building is a hub of activity adjacent to Campus Martius Park.

 

Karmanos’ comments came just days after the Detroit City Council voted to launch two separate initiatives to try to oust the mayor, who is facing perjury and other charges related to the text message scandal.

 

Since the mayoral scandal broke, few of the city’s business leaders have been willing to publicly say anything about what the mayor should do. The board of Detroit Renaissance, a group of about 50 corporate chief executives in the region, is divided over whether it should take a stand on the controversy or continue to keep a low profile.

 

Karmanos has played a key role in efforts to revitalize Detroit, but he said that his work in this area has not been impeded by the mayoral text message scandal.

 

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And a great comment from the freep forum:

MotownJohnnie wrote:

I wonder if the author of this article had the gumption to ask Karmanos how long he'd keep an employee who's done HALF the things Fat Boy has. Probably not. And one also has to wonder if the citizens of our fair town have figured out that Peter Karmanos has just insulted every last one of them by saying of Kwame Kilpatrick, "he's the best we have."
5/16/2008 1:29:35 PM

Looks like MotownJohnnie said it all. Pox on Karmanos.

Willing to bet, the Karmanos name will surface in the text messages. Interesting coincidence after yesterday's electronic information "policy change", which is legally null and void. These people are complete idiots, and now they’re complete and desperate idiots.

Definitely in panic mode. Their mouths are moving much faster than their brains, without thinking about long term consequences of them. But then, when did any of them worry about consequences?

Makes me wonder though, what's going on in the background that is setting this off? Something, something big. Unless it's starting to become real - the shock has worn off.

Obviously, whatever is going on in the background it is so devastating that no one can keep a level head--they have ALL imploded. Have you noticed that kwame's attorneys cannot hold their heads up, or maintain eye contact these days?

The Legal team has received the Prosecution's discovery CD's. They are all panicking! Probably something really obvious like "Now that we've KILLED TAMARA GREENN......."  I'm sure there is enough to bring the Feds in. KYM did say she passed a few things up to the FEDS. Contract fixing.... murder... the usual thug activities. That's why everyone is acting desperate! NO DEALS FOR CB or KK! Why should stepping down be punishment enough? When will we pass a law that says innocent till proven guilty but during our wonderful legal systems 27 year process KK could retire in office after completing his 12 full terms if left up to the voters of Detroit. Where is the RECALL? Oh Yeah its one of the Team Kilpatrick members that got their recall through. Expect nothing to become of that!!!!

The only ones who should be spared are Watson, Kenyatta, Jones both Cockeril's and Dave Bing. Eliminate the entire regime starting with MAMA Kilpatrick. Prosecute everyone involved to the fullest extent.

PS Why is anyone concerned with KK changing policy? The policy in effect at the time of infraction should apply correct? Laura? Please advise.  

WeCanHelp - The defense received, and are continuing to receive, the Prosecutors evidence and I doubt that they have gotten through all 200,000+ pages yet to discover the magnitude of the evidence for the charges, or possible future charges, against Kwame.

Ms. Worthy indicated that she spoke to the U.S. Attorney. What they spoke about is pure speculation. If you are referring a possible murder charge due to the rumor - pure hearsay - of Tamara Greene as a federal charge, it would NOT be. Murder, under the Greene circumstance, is a State charge. There are very few Federal murder statutes.

I believe that the Fed's are looking into many things, least of all the "contract fixing" as you said. They will file charges, if any, when they feel it's appropriate. It will be done before the statue of limitations expire. That is the only timetable that must be followed.

You suggested that if Kwame stepped down that would be agreeable in a "deal." I can say, with some confidence, that would NEVER occur. One does not tie into another. There are guidelines for sentencing, along with "deal" making. For a Judge to approve a "deal" certain requirements must be met. A plea (deal) is not just an agreement between the prosecutor and defendant. It must come under judicial review and approval. The Judge can throw any plea agreement out.

Also when a plea agreement is finalized the defendant must proclaim his/her guilt in open court and explain in detail what and how was done. At that point the defendant is found guilty. If Kwame took a plea he would admit to his guilt and therefore loose his position as Mayor anyway.

The law that you referred to "innocent until proven guilty" is the Constitution and the entire basis of our Justice System. To refer to it in such a flippant manner is quite disrespectful. The process of "bringing justice" in regard to Kwame and Beatty will probably take a total of 10 months, without appeals. This is a large case, in respect to the evidence and witness list. Hardly 27 years, with 12 full terms (which would equal 48 years) a gross exaggeration.

As for the electronic communication policy I believe I answered that earlier. Indtytf also answered your question.

Nice post Laura.  Thanks for the professional insight.