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Steve Wilson Investigation into the Mayor's Expenses and Private Jets
Last post 08-31-2009, 11:58 AM by charlietuna. 285 replies.
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03-20-2008, 5:12 PM |
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Re: Can we merge the two forums,,, Plz... I'm getting dizzy(er)
MarieZ: taxpayer: Berline:
PENTASTAR AVIATION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Media Contact: Robin Hardin
BERLINE
248-593-7409
PRESS RELEASE
Pentastar Aviation is a private aviation company owned by Mr. Edsel Ford and headquartered at the Oakland County International Airport in Waterford, Michigan.
Pentastar responds to the March 18, 2008 broadcast by WXYZ Channel 7 reporter Steve Wilson which was also published on the Channel 7 website. Mr. Wilson erroneously implied that Pentastar Aviation provided free air transportation to Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and his family. That is untrue. The flight in question was arranged and paid for in advance with no discounts offered or given by Pentastar and/or Mr. Ford. This flight was a sub-charter and not operated by Pentastar Aviation. The FAA does not require Part 135 flights to keep or disclose the names of its customers. Pentastar Aviation is in complete compliance with FAA regulations.
There are also several other statements made in the broadcast. For example, Mr. Wilson stated that Mr. Ford “previously sought to operate at City Airport.” That statement is true. Pentastar Aviation frequently makes flights to and from City Airport. Additionally, Mr. Wilson stated that Mr. Ford refused to comment on Mayor Kilpatrick’s air travel. At no time prior to the broadcast and/or publication was Mr. Ford approached by either Channel 7 or Steve Wilson and given the opportunity to comment.
See! Capitalism works baby! These fools are scared sh!tless that the Ford name will be tarnished. As if the Lions haven't already pooped all over the name for the past 50 years.
I'm sorry Taxpayer; That was meant for all of us, "Can we merge the two forums Plz, I'm getting dizzy(er)?
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03-20-2008, 5:12 PM |
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tantra:
Breaking News....
Kym Worthy has called a press conference for Monday at 11 am. She will then announce whether or not she will charge Kwame.
Do the right thing Kym!!!
Make a difference. This is fine that we are all posting our ideas and stories but we need to write these people and tell them what we want. Here is the wayne county website. Click on "contact us" at the top. The rest is self explanatory. If it ain't then maybe you voted for Kwame.
http://www.waynecounty.com/prosecutor/
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03-20-2008, 5:20 PM |
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Re: Steve Wilson Investigation into the Mayor's Expenses and Private Jets
ksr1966:
diannabrat:43 thousand dollars to fly momma and kids to Florida, A trip to Florida last year it cost me 270.00 both ways non stop to Tampa. I dont make 43 thousand in A year. I am sure it would cost more these days since everything has went up, but A commercial flight for 3 would more than likley cost a thousand or A little more. im not sure how much for first class, but im sure it wouldnt be 43 thousand. This mayor just doesnt care how he spends other peoples money, I thank you all for the boycott ford link, I used it. I continue to boycott Detroit. my little money will stay downriver, until this mayor is gone.
Shoot, We can get airline tickets to Florida for as low as $39.00 each way!! Who in the heck do they think they are? Royalty?
Kwame and family better book their next flight on Spirit Airlines or take the Greyhound bus!! It just may come to this when big daddy leaves the big house for the BIG HOUSE!!
If the airlines were wise, they could really use this incident as a marketing tool for inexpensive flights to Florida! Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Kilpatricks were offered the $39.00 ticets for free, and they refuse?
Lord give me a break!
The Kilpatricks don't "think" they are royalty, they KNOW it. Kwame was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. His mom was a congresswoman and his daddy was getting rich off the county. Kwame is a spoiled brat but you ain't seen nuthin yet. If we let this jerk get away with this and get re-elected then we will be dealing with Jionas or Jalil Kilpatrick as mayor in 20 years and the screwin will continue.
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03-20-2008, 5:22 PM |
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Re: Steve Wilson Investigation into the Mayor's Expenses and Private Jets
diannabrat:43 thousand dollars to fly momma and kids to Florida, A trip to Florida last year it cost me 270.00 both ways non stop to Tampa. I dont make 43 thousand in A year. I am sure it would cost more these days since everything has went up, but A commercial flight for 3 would more than likley cost a thousand or A little more. im not sure how much for first class, but im sure it wouldnt be 43 thousand. This mayor just doesnt care how he spends other peoples money, I thank you all for the boycott ford link, I used it. I continue to boycott Detroit. my little money will stay downriver, until this mayor is gone.
God Bless you and as a resident of Detroit I thank you for Boycotting Detroit until this mayor is gone.
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03-20-2008, 6:00 PM |
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MisterBluebird: Newguy:
Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
My brother practices out of state and I can use him as a resource. He did comment that Kym Worthy's "surprise"comment re. public reaction was at the very least "unprofessional" . I'm reasonably sure the perjury/obstruction of justice issues do not vary state to state. I will look into it.
I agree and previously stated that her "surprise" comment was totally unprofessional! That statement in itself makes me question her overall ability to get the job done. She was into playing with the public. This is not a game. I am not speculating. I posted earlier that maybe kk knows more than we think. Maybe he knows the city doesn't have a competency level that can get the job done. We will have to see. Worthy sounds intelligent but that is comparing her to the others I have witnessed since this scenario started...so maybe it doesn't say much for her??? When she was given this position it was stated that she was a strong prosecutor. Again I have to see it to believe it!
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03-20-2008, 6:01 PM |
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MisterBluebird:
Vegetarian, Carnivore, or Omnivore?
How about empanar and agua in celda de prisión?
(Bread and water in prison!!)
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03-20-2008, 10:01 PM |
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Newguy:Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
Good evening Newguy- I got a reply from my brother re. your booking and post bail question. As I stated earlier he does not practice in MI but as Indytf states in a later post and confirmed by my brother there are slight
differences state to state but nothing dramatically different. The
following text in quotes is his response. "OK:
Booking: The process, whereby, after arrest for a crime, a person's
identity, at least visually and through fingerprinting, is put on the "books".
The person is taken to the local police/sheriff's station, photographed with an
identity plaque, fingerprinted, and the charges against the person are
correlcated to this data. Today, it may also include taken DNA samples via
saliva.
Bail: When a person is booked, it is often the case that they must post
bail or remain in custody. Also, often, they are released on their own
recognizance. Your mayor, and because the crimes you mentioned are not ones of
significant violence or controlled substance marketing, is likely to be releaesd
on his own recognizance.
First appearance in court: Those who are retained in custody must be
brought before a magistrate, generally, within 72 hours. Those who are
released may have the issue of posting bond reviewed at the time of appearance.
The time of first appearance, when one is released on their own recognizance,
can vary greatly. The more money, and therefore ability to afford various
background efforts/maneuvers by counsel, the longer one can put off making that
appearance. It may even be that the mayor's attorney would be permitted to make
the appearance for the mayor without the mayor's physical presence. In Oregon,
if the case is a misdemeanor, counsel is automatically allowed to appear and
enter a plea without the client/alleged perpetrator persent.
If the mayor is a lawyer, proven charges of perjury, particularly by a
public official/lawyer, would allmost certainly result in disbarment or
resignation under fire without hope of later reinstatement.
Hope you enjoy all of this." There are a couple of typos. He was creating this document as we were talking online. Hope this answers your question re. the booking and posting bail.
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03-20-2008, 11:06 PM |
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MisterBluebird: Newguy:
Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
Good evening Newguy- I got a reply from my brother re. your booking and post bail question. As I stated earlier he does not practice in MI but as Indytf states in a later post and confirmed by my brother there are slight differences state to state but nothing dramatically different. The following text in quotes is his response.
"OK:
Booking: The process, whereby, after arrest for a crime, a person's identity, at least visually and through fingerprinting, is put on the "books". The person is taken to the local police/sheriff's station, photographed with an identity plaque, fingerprinted, and the charges against the person are correlcated to this data. Today, it may also include taken DNA samples via saliva.
Bail: When a person is booked, it is often the case that they must post bail or remain in custody. Also, often, they are released on their own recognizance. Your mayor, and because the crimes you mentioned are not ones of significant violence or controlled substance marketing, is likely to be releaesd on his own recognizance.
First appearance in court: Those who are retained in custody must be brought before a magistrate, generally, within 72 hours. Those who are released may have the issue of posting bond reviewed at the time of appearance. The time of first appearance, when one is released on their own recognizance, can vary greatly. The more money, and therefore ability to afford various background efforts/maneuvers by counsel, the longer one can put off making that appearance. It may even be that the mayor's attorney would be permitted to make the appearance for the mayor without the mayor's physical presence. In Oregon, if the case is a misdemeanor, counsel is automatically allowed to appear and enter a plea without the client/alleged perpetrator persent.
If the mayor is a lawyer, proven charges of perjury, particularly by a public official/lawyer, would allmost certainly result in disbarment or resignation under fire without hope of later reinstatement.
Hope you enjoy all of this." There are a couple of typos. He was creating this document as we were talking online. Hope this answers your question re. the booking and posting bail.
Ken Cockrel indicated tonight that even if he is charged with perjury or obstruction,he doens't have to step down, although public pressure to do so would increase. I doubt that also. It's funny, 400 supporters were out tonight demanding justice for Kwame and the rally against him couln't conjure up 100 detroiters. That tells me alot.
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03-20-2008, 11:18 PM |
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MarieZ
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Re: Steve Wilson Investigation into the Mayor's Expenses and Private Jets
Ya know, i have to thank my dog, for being alive.
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03-21-2008, 7:28 AM |
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Boomer: MisterBluebird: Newguy:
Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
Good evening Newguy- I got a reply from my brother re. your booking and post bail question. As I stated earlier he does not practice in MI but as Indytf states in a later post and confirmed by my brother there are slight differences state to state but nothing dramatically different. The following text in quotes is his response.
"OK:
Booking: The process, whereby, after arrest for a crime, a person's identity, at least visually and through fingerprinting, is put on the "books". The person is taken to the local police/sheriff's station, photographed with an identity plaque, fingerprinted, and the charges against the person are correlcated to this data. Today, it may also include taken DNA samples via saliva.
Bail: When a person is booked, it is often the case that they must post bail or remain in custody. Also, often, they are released on their own recognizance. Your mayor, and because the crimes you mentioned are not ones of significant violence or controlled substance marketing, is likely to be releaesd on his own recognizance.
First appearance in court: Those who are retained in custody must be brought before a magistrate, generally, within 72 hours. Those who are released may have the issue of posting bond reviewed at the time of appearance. The time of first appearance, when one is released on their own recognizance, can vary greatly. The more money, and therefore ability to afford various background efforts/maneuvers by counsel, the longer one can put off making that appearance. It may even be that the mayor's attorney would be permitted to make the appearance for the mayor without the mayor's physical presence. In Oregon, if the case is a misdemeanor, counsel is automatically allowed to appear and enter a plea without the client/alleged perpetrator persent.
If the mayor is a lawyer, proven charges of perjury, particularly by a public official/lawyer, would allmost certainly result in disbarment or resignation under fire without hope of later reinstatement.
Hope you enjoy all of this." There are a couple of typos. He was creating this document as we were talking online. Hope this answers your question re. the booking and posting bail.
Ken Cockrel indicated tonight that even if he is charged with perjury or obstruction,he doens't have to step down, although public pressure to do so would increase. I doubt that also. It's funny, 400 supporters were out tonight demanding justice for Kwame and the rally against him couln't conjure up 100 detroiters. That tells me alot. Well did anyone in the media or within our forum community know ahead of time that there was going to be a rally? I am sure that they were all friends and family (a counter rally could have been set up if people knew)....OR,The same folks that were at his state of the city Address. Also, lets not forget that his church has a huge congregation. It is interesting to note that all his supporters are constantly quoting scripture...
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03-21-2008, 10:09 AM |
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MisterBluebird: Newguy:
Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
Good evening Newguy- I got a reply from my brother re. your booking and post bail question. As I stated earlier he does not practice in MI but as Indytf states in a later post and confirmed by my brother there are slight differences state to state but nothing dramatically different. The following text in quotes is his response.
"OK:
Booking: The process, whereby, after arrest for a crime, a person's identity, at least visually and through fingerprinting, is put on the "books". The person is taken to the local police/sheriff's station, photographed with an identity plaque, fingerprinted, and the charges against the person are correlcated to this data. Today, it may also include taken DNA samples via saliva.
Bail: When a person is booked, it is often the case that they must post bail or remain in custody. Also, often, they are released on their own recognizance. Your mayor, and because the crimes you mentioned are not ones of significant violence or controlled substance marketing, is likely to be releaesd on his own recognizance.
First appearance in court: Those who are retained in custody must be brought before a magistrate, generally, within 72 hours. Those who are released may have the issue of posting bond reviewed at the time of appearance. The time of first appearance, when one is released on their own recognizance, can vary greatly. The more money, and therefore ability to afford various background efforts/maneuvers by counsel, the longer one can put off making that appearance. It may even be that the mayor's attorney would be permitted to make the appearance for the mayor without the mayor's physical presence. In Oregon, if the case is a misdemeanor, counsel is automatically allowed to appear and enter a plea without the client/alleged perpetrator persent.
If the mayor is a lawyer, proven charges of perjury, particularly by a public official/lawyer, would allmost certainly result in disbarment or resignation under fire without hope of later reinstatement.
Hope you enjoy all of this." There are a couple of typos. He was creating this document as we were talking online. Hope this answers your question re. the booking and posting bail.
MisterBluebird
Thank you for the very informative response! My apologies for the late reply but I have been busy tracking the news and other forums.
Sure would be great to see KING KK and CB getting booked! I hope Steve will be there with a camera!
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03-21-2008, 1:39 PM |
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Newguy: MisterBluebird: Newguy:
Any legal beagles on here?? If Kym does charge KING KK with perjury and/or obstruction of justice what happens next, does he get booked and have to post bail??
Good evening Newguy- I got a reply from my brother re. your booking and post bail question. As I stated earlier he does not practice in MI but as Indytf states in a later post and confirmed by my brother there are slight differences state to state but nothing dramatically different. The following text in quotes is his response.
"OK:
Booking: The process, whereby, after arrest for a crime, a person's identity, at least visually and through fingerprinting, is put on the "books". The person is taken to the local police/sheriff's station, photographed with an identity plaque, fingerprinted, and the charges against the person are correlcated to this data. Today, it may also include taken DNA samples via saliva.
Bail: When a person is booked, it is often the case that they must post bail or remain in custody. Also, often, they are released on their own recognizance. Your mayor, and because the crimes you mentioned are not ones of significant violence or controlled substance marketing, is likely to be releaesd on his own recognizance.
First appearance in court: Those who are retained in custody must be brought before a magistrate, generally, within 72 hours. Those who are released may have the issue of posting bond reviewed at the time of appearance. The time of first appearance, when one is released on their own recognizance, can vary greatly. The more money, and therefore ability to afford various background efforts/maneuvers by counsel, the longer one can put off making that appearance. It may even be that the mayor's attorney would be permitted to make the appearance for the mayor without the mayor's physical presence. In Oregon, if the case is a misdemeanor, counsel is automatically allowed to appear and enter a plea without the client/alleged perpetrator persent.
If the mayor is a lawyer, proven charges of perjury, particularly by a public official/lawyer, would allmost certainly result in disbarment or resignation under fire without hope of later reinstatement.
Hope you enjoy all of this." There are a couple of typos. He was creating this document as we were talking online. Hope this answers your question re. the booking and posting bail.
MisterBluebird
Thank you for the very informative response! My apologies for the late reply but I have been busy tracking the news and other forums.
Sure would be great to see KING KK and CB getting booked! I hope Steve will be there with a camera!
;You are welcome Newguy. I feel that Kym has been very gracious to give this holiday weekend to the mayor. Come Monday "Its a Hard Reign thats Gonna Fall"!
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Supporters for the mayor state that they want "fairness and justice". We all do! Is it fair when taxpayers have to pay millions of dollars because of the mayor's lies and deceit? Is it fair to persecute the media for shedding light on matters that would have otherwise been kept in the dark?
The justice that any of us would receive for breaking the law by committing perjury is the same justice we want for Mr. Kilpatrick. Because being a mayor does not mean being above the law.
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03-21-2008, 3:07 PM |
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Supporters for the mayor state that they want "fairness and justice". We all do! Is it fair when taxpayers have to pay millions of dollars because of the mayor's lies and deceit? Is it fair to persecute the media for shedding light on matters that would have otherwise been kept in the dark?
The justice that any of us would receive for breaking the law by committing perjury is the same justice we want for Mr. Kilpatrick. Because being a mayor does not mean being above the law.
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