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  •  07-01-2009, 11:00 AM 4194847 in reply to 4194830

    Detroit Metrotimes

    Mtrotimes won a national award for their article about Kwame titled "Just Go". They were the first publication to openly tell the mayor to get the hell out of office. It's worth another read. Lots of folks never got a chance to read it as there were reports at the time that Kwame's minions were going around town scooping up all the extra copies so Detroiters could not make an informed decision.

    http://metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=12522

  •  07-01-2009, 11:24 AM 4194870 in reply to 4194847

    From todays Metrotimes

     

    7/1/2009

    Election > Politics & Prejudices

    Time for real change
    Why Detroiters should elect council members by district

     

    By Jack Lessenberry

    There's a great temptation to say that, hey, the system works after all! Monica Conyers has pleaded guilty and is presumably on her way to the slam. Kwame Kilpatrick was found out, thrown out, convicted, jailed and run out of town. What more proof do you need?

    But if you think that, you are wrong. 

    When the system doesn't kick in till you have terminal cancer, it ain't working, comrades. In fact, Detroit's political system is terribly broken. City Council is a breeding ground for corruption. Remember "Fast Lonnie" Bates, another convicted felon? Remember Kay Everett, who died facing federal indictment for, among other things, trading a vote for 17 pounds of sausage?

    That's just in the past few years. We can't fix it all at once, and the biggest cure for Detroit's ills would be a few hundred thousand good-paying jobs. But one important way we can start fixing things now is changing the way we elect City Council members. 

    Right now, they are all elected at-large, by the entire city. That means all the council members are responsible for everything — and nothing. Detroit City Council members don't have the power to order the lights fixed in your neighborhood, for example. They don't have to live in any particular neighborhood, so they don't. Large stretches of the city have no one on council looking out for the interests of those who live there. Collectively, however, council members do have the power to award multimillion-dollar contracts for things like sludge-hauling. And that's how you get temptation, bribery and corruption.

    What's worse, the way they are elected helps make sure we don't get the best possible people. Here's how Detroiters now pick council members. They start out by picking nine names from a primary ballot that may include as many as 300 names. The top 18 names make it to the November election. The voters again pick nine out of 18. (They may also pick fewer, if they choose.) The top nine get to be on City Council; the top vote-getter overall gets to be council president. 

    What this means in reality is, familiar names win. That's how Monica Conyers got elected;  why Sheila Cockrel first won; why Martha Reeves made it. Granted, a few hardworking community activists who have earned their chops make it too, but this is really about name recognition. And how could it be otherwise? 

    Do you have the time, ability and patience to sort through 300 names — or even 18? I don't, and I study this stuff for a living.

    Fortunately, we now have a chance to fix this mess. A new group called Detroiters for Council by Districts is working hard to get a proposal on the November ballot that would amend the city charter.  They would replace the present system with one where Detroiters elect seven members by district and two at-large. That would make sure every area of the city had some representation — and that two members would be thinking of the interests of the overall city at large. 

    Francis Grunow, a white law student born and raised in Detroit who can't imagine living anywhere else, is working hard on the effort.

    "Detroiters took the first step when they passed Proposal C, which will overhaul the city charter," he said. "But that won't necessarily result in council by districts. This is how every other big American city elects council members — either just by district, or in a combination of district and at-large." 

    So why not here? Ten years or so ago, I took the late Maryann Mahaffey, then council president, and Kurt Metzger, aka the Great Demographer, to lunch to talk about the idea. Kurt, then the head of a population studies operation at Wayne State, said his shop could design a fair and equitable district system in a heartbeat. That is, if council wanted him to. Maryann said that it would be fine with her; she could have gotten re-elected anytime under any system, and knew it. But she said council would never go for it. They would be suspicious, she said, that it would be an attempt to carve out a "white seat" or two. Plus no one already on council wanted to have to move to represent some other neighborhood. Well, times have changed. For one thing, there are essentially no areas left that would be apt to elect a majority white councilman. We've also had a lot of corruption since then, and the city has continued to lose population and jobs and drift downhill.

    And Detroit's politicians have made the situation worse. The city needs responsible leaders, and Detroiters at least deserve a chance to vote on moving to council by districts. But in order for that to happen, Detroiters for Council by Districts needs help. They are largely a coalition of good-government-style organizations, including the League of Women Voters; the Black Slate, ACORN and some Wayne State law students like Francis Grunow. 

    They don't have the money a special interest group would to hire signature-collecters. They need volunteers. If you are interested, check out their website: councilbydistricts.org. You can find out who to contact, how to circulate petitions, where to turn them in, all that.

    They've got about half the signatures necessary and only need a few thousand more, but they need 'em in the next few weeks. If you are interested, and you are reading this on Wednesday, Council By Districts is holding a fundraiser from 7 to 11 p.m. at the Town Pump Tavern on Montcalm, just west of the Fox.

    They are asking for $20, about the cheapest fundraising ticket I've heard of since the last time Abraham Lincoln ran, and they will give you a spiffy oval "CXD" bumper sticker.

    Trust me, and think of Monica. Detroit needs to do this, now. 


    Miracle of the Miracle League:
    Want to do something nonpolitical that would make you feel good, help your fellow man and not cost a cent? Consider volunteering to be a buddy for the Miracle League of Michigan, a baseball league for special-needs kids.

    Vic "Daffy" Doucette, a former Metro Times copy editor, is a honcho in the six-year-old league, which means he works hard and isn't paid. He does, however, announce some games, which are played over the weekend at the Southfield Municipal Complex. "I try to create the same sound and atmosphere you get at a big-league game," he said.

    This is where kids who otherwise might never play an organized sport can play baseball. The athletes, most between 5 and 20, play on a wheelchair-friendly field. The league has everything it needs, except … a few angels in the outfield, infield and behind the plate. "Most of our players require on-field assistance from folks we call 'buddies.'" Doucette said.

    "We've had to pull family members out of the stands to lend a hand. They don't mind, but they usually prefer to sit and watch for an hour or so, to lessen the burden of caring for a child who may have a serious disability." 

    Helping these kids beats the hell out of paying tons of money to see millionaires at Comerica Park. To find out more, contact Doucette: vdoucette56@sbcglobal.net, or Steve Peck, league president, stevepeck@comcast.net.

    Tell 'em Wacky Jacky sent ya.

    Jack Lessenberry opines weekly for Metro Times. Contact him at letters@metrotimes.com.

     

  •  07-01-2009, 11:42 AM 4194892 in reply to 4194830

    Michael Jackson

    I'm not a big fan, either, and cannot defend his behavior in so many aspects of his life.  I guess I'm just fascinated/curious about everything that's coming out about him now.  

    But wow, was he a great talent!  While I bought Thriller back when it was released (as the rest of the world probably did), I never realized until this week what a great talent he actually was.  And I guess that's the fascinating part - how someone could be so accomplished, yet lead such a strange, reclusive life. 

    It sure sounds like that idiot father of his messed him up big time!  Not that that's an excuse for his attraction to young boys; there's no excuse for that.  But his whole life story is extremely curious.

  •  07-01-2009, 11:45 AM 4194895 in reply to 4194892

    Monica

    While Kwame gave some sort of apology when he was ultimately backed up against a wall, and then sort of admitted some tiny form of guilt, Monica has shown no remorse whatsoever!   If anything, her guilty plea has emboldended her to be even more rude, combative and self-righteous than ever!

     

  •  07-01-2009, 11:46 AM 4194897 in reply to 4194892

    Re: Michael Jackson

    Missy55367:

    I'm not a big fan, either, and cannot defend his behavior in so many aspects of his life.  I guess I'm just fascinated/curious about everything that's coming out about him now.  

    But wow, was he a great talent!  While I bought Thriller back when it was released (as the rest of the world probably did), I never realized until this week what a great talent he actually was.  And I guess that's the fascinating part - how someone could be so accomplished, yet lead such a strange, reclusive life. 

    It sure sounds like that idiot father of his messed him up big time!  Not that that's an excuse for his attraction to young boys; there's no excuse for that.  But his whole life story is extremely curious.

    It has often been said that there is a fine line between genius and madness and it is very true. I look at folks like Marvin Gaye and how messed up his personal life was. Same about Phil Specter, Kurt Kobain, Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin....even Henry Ford was an oddball with very racist and bizarre beliefs.
  •  07-01-2009, 11:49 AM 4194901 in reply to 4194895

    Re: Monica

    Missy55367:

    While Kwame gave some sort of apology when he was ultimately backed up against a wall, and then sort of admitted some tiny form of guilt, Monica has shown no remorse whatsoever!   If anything, her guilty plea has emboldended her to be even more rude, combative and self-righteous than ever!

     

    Kwame read an apology in front of a judge and practically sneered the words out of his lips. These politicians have an agrandized sense of entitlement that goes beyond sociopathic behavior.
  •  07-01-2009, 11:53 AM 4194903 in reply to 4194901

    Detroit police scanner

    I have been listening to this scanner for the past three hours and all I can say is that if I ever say anything stupid or mean regarding Detroit Police I want you all to tell me to shut the heck up. These guys are working their butts off out there. There is a never ending litany of calls. Everything from B&E's to some neighbor threatening another one with a lawn edger. They are certainly overworked.

     

  •  07-01-2009, 4:04 PM 4195126 in reply to 4194771

    Re: detroit police radio

    taxpayer:
    just amazed:
    taxpayer:
    Kimberley:

    That is funny......so now it's the Dr.'s kids (the older ones)? Yes I'm watching too. teehee

    Kathy, good luck and I pray it all works out for you.

    Where's MIA/Get Real?

    I will reserve any further comments regarding Micheal Jackson ONLY out of respect for any forum members that feel differently about him than I do. I am not a fan. Micheal has to answer to God now and I wouldn't want to be in his position.

    I will only comment that he (and Jackson 5) had many great songs, even if you aren't a fan I bet you know the words to several of thier hits.

    Let me clarify because I was misleading in my statement. As a child I enjoyed the Jackson Five and their music. As a young adult I very much liked Thriller and the album prior to Thriller. My only problem now is that over the course of the past 20 years I have grown to loathe everything MJ due to the mistreatment of young boys by Micheal. And yes I know the words to many of his older songs. I am not currently a fan of what Micheal became.

    I agree with your clarification as I too loathe what he became.  And I will only defend him to the fact that the media has become (and will be for sometime) crazed over every little tidbit.  Much of it I believe to be CRAP.

  •  07-01-2009, 5:58 PM 4195202 in reply to 4194892

    Re: Michael Jackson

    Missy55367:

    I'm not a big fan, either, and cannot defend his behavior in so many aspects of his life.  I guess I'm just fascinated/curious about everything that's coming out about him now.  

    But wow, was he a great talent!  While I bought Thriller back when it was released (as the rest of the world probably did), I never realized until this week what a great talent he actually was.  And I guess that's the fascinating part - how someone could be so accomplished, yet lead such a strange, reclusive life. 

    It sure sounds like that idiot father of his messed him up big time!  Not that that's an excuse for his attraction to young boys; there's no excuse for that.  But his whole life story is extremely curious.

    All very well said Missy, and it is the part of history that is fascinating.
  •  07-01-2009, 6:03 PM 4195207 in reply to 4194903

    Re: Detroit police scanner

    taxpayer:

    I have been listening to this scanner for the past three hours and all I can say is that if I ever say anything stupid or mean regarding Detroit Police I want you all to tell me to shut the heck up. These guys are working their butts off out there. There is a never ending litany of calls. Everything from B&E's to some neighbor threatening another one with a lawn edger. They are certainly overworked.

     

    Tax it is to funny that you got so hooked on this.  Not that there is anything wrong with it.  Next we are going to hear about you running out to some of these calls.   

    Detroit Police are continually presented with life-threatening situations.  And are most certainly not paid what they are worth. 

  •  07-01-2009, 6:05 PM 4195209 in reply to 4194847

    Re: Detroit Metrotimes

    Thanks for the metrotimes articles, Lessenberry really hit the nail on the head with Kwame.
  •  07-01-2009, 6:11 PM 4195214 in reply to 4194895

    Re: Monica

    Missy55367:

    While Kwame gave some sort of apology when he was ultimately backed up against a wall, and then sort of admitted some tiny form of guilt, Monica has shown no remorse whatsoever!   If anything, her guilty plea has emboldended her to be even more rude, combative and self-righteous than ever!

     

    And I would like to know WHY she thinks she isn't going to jail?  If she doesn't I would truly be pi$$ed.  Does she think it's all over because she pleaded guilty?  And what was up with the "If I let you down ........." I am sorry. 
  •  07-01-2009, 8:04 PM 4195269 in reply to 4195202

    Re: Michael Jackson

    I was the manager of a retail record store in the early1980's. We sold so many of Jackson's product. I bet my store sold over 40,000 pieces of the Jackson products in just 2 years. When Thriller came out, you could not keep it in stock. Had to reserve it for people the first month. Off the Wall came out first and had decent sales but a little slow. Then everybody bought both copies. Little kids used to come in the store in those fake leather jackets wearing one glove. Kids used to rip off the posters from the record companies. They would run out the door. Ah, the good old days.
  •  07-02-2009, 7:13 AM 4195662 in reply to 4195269

    Martha Reeves

    Editorial

    Reeves' no-show council job

    FREE PRESS EDITORIAL BOARD • July 1, 2009

    • Monica Conyers has brought her political career to a merciful end, erstwhile Detroit City Council colleagues Martha Reeves and JoAnn Watson are in a fierce competition to succeed Conyers as the council’s biggest embarrassment.
    Watson seemed to have clinched the prize when she acknowledged underpaying her property taxes (and evading the annual charge ordinary Detroit residents pay for trash pickup), then scoffed at the notion that she had been under any obligation to bring the oversight to the city’s attention.

    But now Reeves has staked her own claim to biggest embarrassment honors with her decision to absent herself from her official duties (and, apparently, to suspend regular contact with her employer) during an unusually eventful week for the council.

    While her city council colleagues were tallying critical votes on water and sewer rates, discussing a legislative compromise to save the auto show and demanding that the disgraced Conyers resign, Reeves was barnstorming England as part of Motown’s 50th anniversary concert tour. She described her council gig to fawning British interviewers as “a second job that I have.”

    When the Free Press’ Zachary Gorchow asked Reeves how she justified her neglect of her council duties, she shrugged off her absence, observing that the eight council members she left behind (although by the time she spoke to Gorchow, alas, the number had dwindled to seven) were more than sufficient to handle the city’s urgent business.

    We agree. In fact, we can’t think of a single way in which Detroiters were disadvantaged by Reeves' extended absence.

    So why are they still paying her salary?



     
  •  07-02-2009, 7:28 AM 4195673 in reply to 4195662

    Just when you think you have heard it all...

    This is from the Detroit News website. It just gets stranger every day. Here is an incident from 2003 where Monica sued DPS. Torn rectum??? I don't think that was from the fall. I think it was due to her being full of sh^t. If I fell twice at Cobo, I would think twice about going back a third time.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

     

    Schools paid Conyers for slip and fall
    Monica Conyers told viewers that leading efforts to kill a plan to turn over Cobo Center to a regional authority was one of her proudest moments as a council member, along with efforts to save the Detroit Zoo and lower rates for water and garbage.
    But records show Conyers was injured at Cobo Center in 2003, leading to a prolonged fight with Detroit Public Schools over a worker's compensation claim she filed while an attendance officer and substitute teacher, according to records from the Workers' Compensation Agency. The district initially balked at the claim, but paid her $64,012, according to records obtained by The Detroit News through the Freedom of Information Act.
    On Dec. 4, 2003, she slipped and fell while at a seminar in Cobo Center and damaged her right knee, according to the claims. Then on June 3, 2004, that knee gave out, causing her to fall and hurt her left knee. Then on June 24, 2004, she fell again, injuring both knees and tearing her rectum, according to the records.

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